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a few things

why would a container not play unless the previous container is played from the start? when the play head gets to the next container it does not play unless the previous container is played from the start.

 

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SFP is still sending out midi after play has stopped. if i click on a note then it stops.

 

 

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What's in these containers? Any CCs that may mute your sound? Do they overlap?

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here is the file. i see no overlap.

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also using studio one now. i can stop sfp anywhere and vsts continue to play. never had this problem in ableton.

 

just tested in Ableton and i dont have these problems. any ideas?

 

 

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Thanks for the file. Here's what is unusual and might cause issues in it:

  1. You have identical phrases in root container and subcontainers. This is probably confusing, if not unintended? Clear unwanted phrases with Phrase>>Clear.
  2. Many figures are set, but empty. These override other figures (mute them). You should delete them instead of cutting them to zero length only. You can delete a parameter from the parameter block (press DEL or use right-click menu).

If you go through this, your issues will likely disappear.

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On a side note, an easy way to see which phrases are really empty is to press the "m" tool button: If an instrument gets minimized, its phrase is empty in that container.

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Hi Cognitones

Is there anywhere a link to all the actual shortcuts? "m" tool etc.?

 

best,

Minkepatt

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The 'm' is not a shortcut, its a button above the parameer block.

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I too sometimes end up with the same phrase in the root container, and then a later container for the same instrument.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong.. I just go away, and then things start sounding wrong.  I search around.  Sure enough two containers with same content. 

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I too sometimes end up with the same phrase in the root container, and then a later container for the sameinstrument. Not sure what I'm doing wrong

There are different operations that lead to a duplication of a phrase from one container to another. Of course the command "snapshot container". But also the command "split container" comes into mind. As I know from your other posts, that you often use "split container", maybe that could be the reason.

Let's assume that you have for example a container with a duration of, say, 10 measures with a short phrase of 1 measure in it and you have the looping option for that phrase switched on (so that it actually plays in the whole container). If you now split the container anywhere, say at measure 5, then both containers will contain that phrase.

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There is nothing wrong with using duplicate phrases, if that is what you intend.

Most of us start development in the root container and then add other containers later. With the new Container>>Pack command, it is ensured that phrases will be moved to the new child rather than tempting you to make a snapshot copy. Also the new drag & drop behavior ensures that, if you move a phrase (or parameter) to another container, it will not be copied (unless you hold the copy key). 

 

This is how it works:

  1. To move an entire phrase, grab the instrument (or: "track") and drop it on another container.
  2. To move a parameter, grab the parameter indicator and drop it on the desired container.

Since the drag & drop change, I noticed that I am moving parameters and phrases more often than before. It became a very convenient way to reorganize a song.

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Thanx that explains it, the repeating of the loop being carried thru a split container..

markstyles

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the only problem i am having now with SFP and studio one is that starting with a empty container. only one phrase. nothing else. SFP still sends notes after stoping. this doesnt occur in ableton. does any one know of a setting in studio one that could be the problem? 

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Did you add the Transport (ReWire) module to your Studio One project? Without that link, Synfire will not stop when you stop Studio One. Also check it you have the Transport enabled on the Time parameter.

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yes. transport added and transport enabled in time parameter. i dont have this problem in Ableton i think it may have something to do with studio one. 

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