melodic variations

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melodic variations

hi, I have still to put myself thru some of the tutorials so pls bear with me since the answer to my question is probably there.

I want to be able to load in a melody via midi file. I would then like for HN or MPS to suggest melodic variations to the melody. I mean slight variations so that the original melody is still identifiable. The main scenario for this is in the classic case of a tune in AABA form, where the A if played exactly the same can start to sound monotonous if some sort of variation in melody, arrangement etc is not introduced.

I'm hoping that cognitone technology will be able to help me with melodic variation.

thanks in advance for the feedback

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Hi Charles,

a harmonic progression already creates some variety, because the melody is modified to match the chords. You melody needs to be encoded in "Linear" format, i.e. not "Static Pitch".

You could also pick a template from the context menu over the "Variation" parameter (in the accompaniment pattern editor). This inserts a random variation function. Works fine with all sorts of melodies and licks.

Working with AABA and such is not possible with HN, because it has no graphical editors for that. MPS can do.

Andre

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Hi Charles,

a harmonic progression already creates some variety, because the melody is modified to match the chords. You melody needs to be encoded in "Linear" format, i.e. not "Static Pitch".

You could also pick a template from the context menu over the "Variation" parameter (in the accompaniment pattern editor). This inserts a random variation function. Works fine with all sorts of melodies and licks.

Working with AABA and such is not possible with HN, because it has no graphical editors for that. MPS can do.

Andre

interesting, a "linear" format ? is that some sort of interval based specification ?

Also since generally my melodies at least my original base melodies would come from other tools is it possible to provide HN with a static pitch melody and have a utility convert it to "linear" format?

harmony based variation is interesting and powerful but often one just needs some slight variety over the same form to break up the potential boring of the listener.

I'll look into the HN variation functionality you mention.

Being able to understand visually a tune's overall structure is huge glad MPS will provide for that.

thanks

Charles A. Monteiro
www.monteirosfusion.com

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The "Linear" term is just a handy name for the algorithm that analyses MIDI notes and creates figures from it. It can't do pattern recognition, but builds melodic segments based on the horizontal scale.

Check out the "Take" parameter. It provides an inspector panel for converting raw MIDI pitch (aka the take) to renderable figures. IIRC, MIDI import creates raw pitch by default.

Andre

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