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How to get entrance to the Phrase editor?

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I try to get more feeling for the basic handling of SFP..and the manual is difficult written.

There are 3 ways to get the phrase editor to see in SFP

- clicking on a instrumentname in the..... --> no problem

- double clicking on the parameter label.... --> i found that one, but it was difficult 

- using the contextmenu of the parameter inspector ??? ..that one ? .. there are 2 parameter inspectors ..one in the arrangment screen and one in the phrase editor itself ( this one is not possible, because i do need first to open the phrase editor)
This i cannot deduct from the manual...and the program itself
Where is this context menu of the phrase editor ?


Wed, 2012-08-08 - 23:07 Permalink

Right click at the parameter label (or at the green LED) opens the context menu. From there choose "Edit..."

Thu, 2012-08-09 - 00:21 Permalink

Thanks!

I found that one already too ( the manual is unclear about this) , but i am curious to the third method with a context menu and  phrase inspector
I do have the feeling i can not come thrue(to learn effective from) the manual for HN2 and SFP, because it is to loose written to understand the programs in all details, but that is my impression.

Luckily there a lot of pop menu's in the programs itself to explain more about functions
It has to do with the development of the program i think, and so the manual are not precise enough for me.

 

Thu, 2012-08-09 - 10:40 Permalink

I found that one already too ( the manual is unclear about this) , but i am curious to the third method with a context menu and  phrase inspector

I've checked the english and german versions of the manual and I'd say that the translation is a bit unclear at this point. The method I've described above (right click at the parameter label to open the context menu) IS the third method to open the phrase editor.

The german version of the manual (chapter 6 Phrase Editor) says the following about opening the phrase editor (translated by myself ):

You can open it by double-clicking on the desired parameter at the parameter area. Or with the context menu there.

Thu, 2012-08-09 - 16:17 Permalink

You can open it by double-clicking on the desired parameter at the parameter area. Or with the context menu there.

Thanks!

i will check this out..edit ..means go to phrase editor --> seems to me more userfriendly 
-Go to Phrase Editor  ( especially handy for starters of SFP )..it opens a new phrase editor

-Phrase editor

 Clicking on figure parameter name (label) and than edit gives also the phrase editor

Pop ups the idea a phrase and a figure ..distinction?  .. for me it are all phrases ;)

First there is take and after recognition it becomes a figure.. but the figure cannot be phrase?

 

Motive is also possible  

 

Thu, 2012-08-09 - 18:20 Permalink

.. but the figure cannot be phrase?

In the philosophy of Synfire the term "Phrase" means the summary of all vectors (all parameters) in a container for one instrument. If you have, for example, vectors stored in the parameter "Figure", "Transpose", "Velocity", "Variation", then the summary of all these vectors (for one instrument) make one "Phrase" (see the attached pic, which is from the manual, chapter "Phrases and Parameters"). 

 

Don't worry, you are certainly not the only one, who gets confused by these terms.

 

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Thu, 2012-08-09 - 18:35 Permalink

Thanks!

I understand this now better.
I t goes all about phrases for composing.