Difference between synfire - harmony navigator

Hi deniz,

for a complete comparison chart, see here:

(http://www.cognitone.com/products/comparison/page.stml)

Synfire is used to arrange full compositions with in-depth phrase and parameter editing, while HN2 is for basic songwriting only (chord progressions and pre-made phrases).

Andre made a T4 device list for me. It is also available on the site somewhere..  Yes, another Tyros user... great.

I bought Harmony Navigator first, then realized I wanted all the extra power that SFP has...  I am not familiar with SFE.

SFP is complex and powerful. It will take  a while to master it. But it does what no other piece of software can do. You'll also learn a lot about the structure of music, motifs, modalities.  It does require patience, Andre has continually been refining it and a big release is due somewhere in the future (I've owned SFP for 2 years now).

Actually I bought HN first, and found it difficult to comprehend.. What I do with any new hardware, software, is I take the time to do experiments, and write down the the results, making postulations, and assumptions, as I work more with it, I discover some of my assumptions were wrong, etc.  Also read the old posts, there is a lot of info in there but you gotta wade thru it.. 

When I bought the Tyros (3 first, now 4).  I wanted to use it as a compositional tool, not a live accompianment machine.. I called Yamaha, they were nice, but had very little info to offer me.  Yamaha primarily thought of it as a real livetime machine..  Yet when I looked how complicated the MIDI SET-up pages were, I realized the software writers put in a lot of options to  make it a compositional tool..  Josoft, Crafty, and PSR tutorial websites were very helpful.  

I took the same approach with SFP.  It is and will be a slow process.  I went ahead and purchased SFP, after 2 months of HN.  Luckily Andre offers you full value of HN if you upgrade.  Andre has been very prolific in updates, and accomodating his customers.. This reminds me of the old days at Emagic, when I knew several people in the company, you got personal attention.. That of course no longer exists with Logic and Apple.

You can try out eith program, and Andre has been generous with the demo.. He lengthened the demo period for me, I'm sure he will for you..

SFP is not a magic instant gratification piece of software.  It will take time and patience to master it. I've been working at if for 2 years, and still have a lot to master.. I stick more with Logic and Tyros to create parts.. I often use SFP to generate a part I could never play.  If you're short on patience, SFP might not be for you. But if you're willing to be patient and learn, you will be GREATLY rewarded..  Basicically with this software you can accomplish what would take years of schooling to create arrangements. 

I recomend it.. Try/buy HN first, then upgrade to SFE/SFP if you feel the need.  It depends a lot on how you plan to use  it..