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Can i always create phrase pools out of the embedded and external library ?

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I want to make a phrase pools out of the embedded library: it is loaded now 5 phrase collections and among these is also the default "Example phrases" included in Synfire.
None of them have a phrase pool attached to them.

Can i make out of the Example phrase ..pools ..i like to have of the example phrases more sub phrases--> a pool
How to make this out of the existing embedded library ? 

Importing a midi can extract a phrase pool(s), but when this is not done by selecting this in the import screen.
It seems there are phrases with/ without connected with a phrasepool
I do want to have to possibility to make out of the embedded library always phrase pools... do i miss something ?

 



  


Di., 26.11.2013 - 15:12 Permalink

Drag additional phrases to the phrases tab of the embedded library.

Use the options menu above the embedded library and open a copy of it in a stand alone library window.

Open the other files with the library editor.

Di., 26.11.2013 - 15:46 Permalink

Thanks Supertonic, Go to the library editor .., but still the default "example phrases" are in the library editor not broken down in snippets.
I do want to use the default example phrases ( or another phrases in case i did not choose the option to create a pool out of the imported midi ).
It should be handy if there is magic button in the embedded library what converts the phrase in pool snippets ;).

Di., 26.11.2013 - 16:09 Permalink

The example phrases are short, dont have multiple phrase snippets. You can split any phrase with auto-split from the phrase menu.

Di., 26.11.2013 - 16:19 Permalink

I assume there is a algorhithm for making phrase snippets out of phrases during midi import  ..why can use this not for the embedded library and let the software determine if there are meaningful snippets ?
Auto- split  is this based solely on splitting and not on musical meaning ? 

Di., 26.11.2013 - 20:28 Permalink

you are sure about this command : auto-split that it applicable for all phrases ?
I did a quick test with the default example phrases and made acopy of the embedded library, but nothing happens ?

Note: in the English manual there is at the headcorner of the page : Kapitel ---> is for the German version..

It seems that i must must do something "manual"in the phrasepool editor to get phrase snippets if i cannot import a midi?   

Example for the default Example phrases i keep them in Cmaj ..so i must harmonise a whole default example phrase in C--in what key are the imported midi when the option create pools is on ?..no quick snippets in a pool.
Can i feed the Example phrase library as midi import ?

 

Quote: to  produce a figure from Rraw MIDI notes (imported or recorded take )  .. as tab 1.Edit phrase --> should it not be better to name this: 1. Edit imported or recorded take?  and tab 2  Harmonize Take  and 3 Recognize Figure from Take , etc.
I lost oversight here ... 

Di., 26.11.2013 - 21:25 Permalink

You can split snippets off a phrase with the span tool and CTRL-E in the library editor.

The examples are too short for dividing them into snippets.

Di., 26.11.2013 - 23:09 Permalink

Thanks

The examples are too short for dividing them into snippets.

In that case i leave the example phrase as they are.. i can't see at forehand if phrases are suitable for a phrase pool

But some 8 bar piano example phrases seems to me a candidate for swimming in the pool  ;)