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Hi All,
I have been working on somehting tonight in Synfire, started from scratch and buolt up from a progression. I ahve been trying to import existing stuff into synfire and it's constantly getting the melodys wrong (chords right though).
I have a question, I have a progression going but want to use notes outside of the current chord in the progression. Now it seems to me that the harmoniser will only give me a few note options for each chord (is this correct?).
Often I will have a progression going and then use notes outside of the chord playing but which are consonant with the track and the progression.
I seem unable to do this in Synfire at the moment. I know that in the figure view I can change the chromatic value of the note but that still seems to be the same options.
Understanding how I can work outside this would also enable me to import other things I have put together with greater success.
Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give.
Mi., 01.04.2009 - 10:00 Permalink
Synfire renders figures based on the scales, for the most part. The chord influences voice leading. If you want to see more scale tones, you must weaken the voice leading constraints of Interpretation. Try the "Bypass" preset for Strategy. That will translate the symbols to the scale as they are written.
If your melody is important and must not change, try setting the Interpretation to "Bypass" and the segment anchors to "weak" as a first try (a strong anchor makes it snap to chord tones). If that doesn't get you close enough, import the midi of that track as static pitches (the brown [p] symbols). That will work fine unless you want to change the progression.
In the other thread about harmony issues, Andre pointed out why a rendered figure will always, at least slightly, deviate from the take.
Christian
Mi., 01.04.2009 - 12:43 Permalink
Thanks Christian,
Ill try these suggestions.
As I think Tokyo rose was suggesing it would be really useful to have a piano roll view (perhaps as the final stage before outputting midi) so that one can see what Synfire is doing rather than just hearing it.
One way that this could work is that it only shows you the note options that will work based upon the parameters that you choose for Synfire.
When Synfire is just working on the figure it's reasonably easy to guestimate what is going on, when you get into variation and so on it makes this a lot harder.
Some sort of view of what is actually output would be super useful. . .
Thanks
