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Thanks for the Synfire v2 Demo but it is too complicated

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Andre,

Tested Synfire express Demo V2 .    

Working with Reaper, Ableton,Cubase is different but not a problem to understand as an Engineer.

But Synfire v1 and v2 will take a long time to understand.  And after  several weeks 

not using the software one have to invest time to learn again.

 


Mi., 19.10.2022 - 19:47 Permalink

Thanks for the feedback. I suggest you take another look when the tutorial videos are available. It's actually pretty simple once you got the hang of the basics (which are totally different from a DAW).

Do., 20.10.2022 - 12:55 Permalink

Van links naar rechts afspelen en de laagste container in het arrangementscherm word uitgelezen met een waarde erin= parameter
Je hebt dus een vaste rootcontainer en daarboven kan je containers plaatsen (uitbouwen)
Voorbeeld: maak een snapshot van de harmonieparameter zoadat de akkoordprogressie zichtbaar word ( een kleur )
Zo kan je een paar containers stapelen met een akkoordprogressie erin en deze afspelen over de rootcontainer heen
Heb je hier wat aan?..het is maar een toepassing van werken met de containers.

(https://1drv.ms/u/s!AjZC1xxr6_fzyxOPPARlxjtAXdM_?e=pLoUDI)

In this animated gif ..example use of containers (embedded, but can also a free one) for different harmony progressions: only the bottom (principle) container is active ( see green harmony parameter line in the container )
Rearranging containers can give different chord progression running over the instrument phrase instruments
 

Do., 20.10.2022 - 11:22 Permalink

see animated gif 

Strange behaviour of the GUI of synfire ?
I do see now for the first time a rootcontainer only outlined on the outside 
Using windows 11 now for the first time.

Very thick edges outlined for the other not root -container, and the green parameter is hardly to see now

Is this intended use ?

 

Do., 20.10.2022 - 12:36 Permalink

Looking forward to watching the 2.0 video tutorials. When will they be available?

And please, please make video(s) that explain the basic but hard to understand and essential concepts! I bought Synfire 10 years ago but could never get to a point where Synfire made sense to me. So finally I gave up but now I really, really want to make a fresh from the very beginning!!

And like you say, I'm sure that it is "actually pretty simple once you got the hang of the basics" so then please, make videos the explain this! 

Do., 20.10.2022 - 13:43 Permalink

I don't really find it complicated. The learning curve is a bit steep since we're used to DAWs, but in a week/month (depending on the person) you should be fully comfortable with the software.
It now even features the embedded help, I mean, what else do you need...

Complexity is the least of Synfire's problems. Its numerous bugs, its laggishness, and the lack of notation support are the real dealbreakers for me, which are making Synfire my worst experience with a software that I've ever had in my life; and it's even payware!

Its harmony and factory features though makes it the only thing in the market that does what it does (rapidcomposer feels like a toy to me), so I cannot do anything else than hoping that it will reach a better state; improvements are being made, albeit slowly.

Do., 20.10.2022 - 14:19 Permalink

Is dat Synfire v2?    Deze tip lijkt mij voor advanced users.  Het is wel van de laatste tijd dat er veel software beschikbaar komt op dit gebied ( captain chord en meer)   

Nico B-Eng 

AV Engineer

Sa., 22.10.2022 - 23:44 Permalink

Hi Nick,

I totaly understand you, that it is not easy to understand the first time and I had the same with SF1 and gave up. But SF2 is clearer to me (or my brain needed some extra time) and now it works ;-)

You may also enjoy my video series, just startet to exlain different things.

Do., 27.10.2022 - 12:54 Permalink

Andre ,

Your YT video SYNFIRE_SHORT PHRASES _ PARAMETERS IN CONTAINERS is showing what synfire can do with  a simple phrase . Great we need more videos with comment from you.  All your video with only click from the mouse and music only are not for easy learning.  And the  female AI  voice in your latest YT video is ok but  your voice is more professional