Unable to scroll down plugin list.

If the menu appears on a secondary monitor, try opening it on your primary monitor. There is a known issue with multiple monitors and menus.

Thanks for bringing this up. The multi monitor issue definitely needs a fix asap. It's in third party code that we need to dig in first before this can be fixed. It's on the list for the next update. I will also consider adding an option to group by vendor.

Using the arrow keys should however work, unless the top/bottom borders of the menu are invisible.

As a workaround until this is fixed, please bring up the menu on the monitor with the lowest bottom border in your arrangement of monitors. This ensures the bottom border of the menu will be visible, so you can scroll down, either using the arrow keys, or the mouse pointer.

The bottom of the list being placed off screen is the culprit. Everything works fine when it's placed on screen. Synfire sizes the menu too big because it thinks the screen real estate is much bigger.

I am working on two 30 inch Dell Displays here with a 2560x1600 resolution.

Great. That's a good display size for Synfire. I'm working on two large monitors too, which is probably why the list of plug-ins did not yet exceed the screen.

Are your monitors aligned at their bottom? 

I guess they are aligned at the bottom, I just don't know how to check this.

Look at the arrangement of monitors in OS X settings. The issue might go away when the bottom egdes of the monitors are aligned.

Also, making the other monitor the main monitor may temporarily help.

Just recently I patched something that should have fixed the issue, but apparently it did not. Will have to look into it again.

Yes, this is somewhat awkward. I'm glad the workaround helps for while.

Reportedly there's another user with some 800 plug-ins installed. He migth face the same issue, or he uses a single monitor only at this time ;-)

Do you have a third monitor connected?

I can not yet reproduce the issue and just wonder.

Andre,

still having problems scrolling my large plugin list from the (audio & midi setup > global rack> engine> load plug-in) option page. Is there an update/fix coming soon? 

As a work around I made a smaller plug-ins folder for synfire only and loaded it with some of my favorite plug-ins. This works but I would like access to all my plug-ins. 

I also stumbled upon right clicking the audio engine icon on the windows taskbar (PC). "Open user interface" displays. Left click brings the "Cognitone Audio Engine". Select "file", then "show manual controls" which displays, "Add Instrument", "Insert FX", "AUX", "MASTER" options. Select prefered option, then VST button. All plug-ins displayed and can be selected.

This may prove to be a optional around but I'm unsure of the plug-in audio chain. Is it the same as the global rack> engine> plug-in audio chain? Please advise. 

PS, the plug-in dialog layout of the "taskbar access" engine is a desired and fuctional format which may work well for, audio & midi setup> global rack> engine> load plug-in> plug-in display dialog. 

Thanks for your help and product.

Brian.T    

Hmm, actually this should have been fixed with the last update already. 

As a workaround you can group the menu by manufacturers, which will reduce the number of plug-ins listed at a time (global preference setting).

Group by manufacturer doesn't help. Plugins listed on Synfire's plugins dialog box do not change format.

I have 4 monitors, 2-24inch @1600x900, and 2-47inch @ 1600x900. Tried different resolutions from 800x600 to 1920x1080 in all monitors without success recently and over the past couple of years. Synfire Pro also freezes if I change the screen resolution it is displayed on. 

As to plugins, don't know if it matters but I have all my plugins, (hard drive vst folder) in self made manufacturer named folders arranged like: AAS (32), Arturia (32), AudioEase (32), etc, to Z's, which works with my daws. Could this directory setup be a problem for Synfire? 

As to using plugins at the windows taskbar> "audio engine"> show manual control dialog. Can I used this access point instead of global rack>engine>load plugin access?

Sorry for my late reply. Been offline due to a system upgrade.

Plugins listed on Synfire's plugins dialog box do not change format.

Which dialog box do you mean? The group by manufacturer option affects popup menus only. On any rack module, hold down the mouse button on the plugin button (2nd from top) to make the menu appear. The option is enabled on the Settings tab of Audio & MIDI Setup. 

Using a nested directory structure for your VST is ok. It does not affect menu structure, though.

Can I used this access point instead of global rack>engine>load plugin access?

You could, but it's not recommended. Be sure you don't forget to save your rack, if it's the global rack. Please however first check if the above menu sorting works for you.

Please also try the Swap Monitors tweak in global Preferences. This only affects the first 2 monitors, but may help.

Which dialog box do you mean?

The dialog I was refering to was the rack module plug-ins dialog which did not change lay-out to group by manufacturer format. I'd checked again and it's now working.

I'm currently reconnecting Synfire to my full vst list to see if it's working correctly. I will inform you if not.

Thanks again for your help and such a wonderful product.

Brian.T

Andre,

Plugins list scroll update.

Synfire just finished scannning my full 32 bit plugin list and problem still exist. I've tested both "the group by manufacturers" and "swap monitor" option on and off. Plugin layout seems locked in group by manufacturer mode even after synfire restart.

My 64 bit engine plugins dialog has (33) 64-bits plugins displayed from "A's" to "W's", also in "group by manufacturers" mode and small enough for total access, (list dialog not completely spanned top to bottom of display monitor(s)).

The 32 bit engine has much more and only displays "A's" to "J's" for an total of 49 in "group by manufacturer" mode. The remainng are beyond user access. (list dialog spans completely top to bottom of display monitor(s)).

The access bar of the list dialog does go beyond the displayed portion of the dialog list but does not scroll up or display any manufacturer or plugin information below that point. 

My Synfire is 1.7.16 Build #3. Audio engine is ver 2.3.1.  

Sorrry for the confusion. I was pretty sure the menu scrolling fix was part of an update, which is not true. It's a patch you can download with Help >> Online Updates separately. It will be included with the next update.

Hi Andre,

I'm having a problem with bass instrument in Global instruments playing chords and not single note(s) when accessing chord and/or probe playback of chord progression in palette. Unsure if this is a program issue or something I have selected. Incidentally bass note/track imported from palette>to new arrangement>interpretation>template>auto-bass works fine.

Please advise.

Also,

It's a patch you can download with Help >> Online Updates separately

As to my scroll problem. How/where do I access (/*Help >>Online Updates */separately). Or do I wait for next update?

Thanks.

You should open the software, then, on the menu, you'll find "Help" - then click on the "Online updates", select the fix, tick the "select"box and click update.

All automatically generated bass is monophonic (palettes, auto-bass). However, if you give it a polyphonic Figure in your arrangement, it will play that too.

I understand your instructions and thank you for it. I'm aware of updating synfire. However the patch fix Andre was referring me to is not listed. Actually nothing is listed as my program (Synire Pro) is completely up to date.

In my early post Andre informed me of the fix patch I need and where to get it. However my online update does not listed it, as previously mentioned. Which is why I ask him for instruction in located it or should I wait for the next update.. 

if you give it a polyphonic Figure in your arrangement, it will play that too.

I understand palettes, auto-bass automatically generate bass in monophonic. This is how I perfer to use it.

My problem however is not with the bass of my arrangement page, it plays monophonic fine, as selected. My problem is the bass note of each chord in the chords arrangement window of the palette page now only playing it's bass notes in polyphonic when chords arrangement loop is auditioned by probe button.

Recap: My palette's chord arrangment now automatically plays it's bass notes in polyphonic mode when auditioned. This is most annoying. How do I set it back to monophonic? 

If your Synfire is up to date, you must have downloaded the patch already. To check, open Help >> Online Updates, click the cogwheel button and peek into Uninstall (but don't uninstall anything!). The patch should be listed there.

As for the bass in progression probing, it will never generate polyphonic bass. Could it be your chords instrument has a very low middle playing range? That might make it use low pitches that you perceive as bass.

As for the bass in progression probing, it will never generate polyphonic bass. Could it be your chords instrument has a very low middle playing range? That might make it use low pitches that you perceive as bass.

Chords instrument playing in range and not a problem.The bass global instrument however is playing in polyphonic only when progression probed.

Chord bass plays correctly when chord(s) are selected by mouse and/or auto-bassed into new arrangement. 

Problem exist only when probed in palette, which it never did before. It's as if the poly of the chords instrument are set to the bass instrument, playing in bass range. 

I've always used progression probing to work out chord arrangements. So this new issue is most problematic for me, please help!

PS, i've uninstalled several times without success. Is there a reset option?

Hi
Can you use a General midi device description (dynamic device description(DD).. it is not a fixed DD or a mixed DD what you can have also in setups) (do youhave a GM soundmodule? )for the global instruments ( palette sounds, ...), then it must be normal working the palette. 

I'm having a problem with bass instrument in Global instruments playing chords and not single note(s) when accessing chord and/or probe playback of chord progression in palette

The bass sound is monophonic working (one voice ) in the global instruments tab when probing there and the chords are polyphonic working when probing.
It seems to be all working normal...
Amazing how do you get the bass sound like a chord...

I used the Halion Sonic Vst 32 bit in GM mode

My global instrumennts rack is completely midi setup connected to Korg Kronos, which has proven most reliable. Synfire has been buggy with plugins (audio engines) for me. 

Testing for solutions I've setup a complete Kontakt 5 global rack as well as a complete GM (internal sound module) global rack. Both also produces the same polyphonic bass notes of the bass instruments when progression probing.

Seems my synfirepro is acting buggy as it does from time to time, (hanging midi notes, program freeze and/or plugin list not scolling properly). However it always produce monophonic notes for global bass instrument in the past. I'm hoping its just a simple fix.

I must say, lately, I've been wondered if the investment is really worth the hassle. The product hasn't proven consistent (bug free) use over the years I've had it. 

Looking for correction or direction.

Hope Andre can help.  

Perhaps you can make a recorded gif with http://www.cockos.com/licecap/ , because it is not exactly clear for me what is going wrong with this bass voice in Synfire.
We can now look with you, what you are doing to get the wrong bass voice.. a pictures can explain more then thousand words.

Brian, sorry for the delay. I'm away form the office right now. I'll try to reproduce your setup tomorrow to see if there is a bug. I've never experienced polyphonic bass and want to know what's going on.

@janamdo:

Everytime you edit your posts, a message is sent to all participants in this discussion. I've received some 12 or so updates over this wekeend, wondering what's happening in this thread, only to find that a single post was edited over and over. It would be helpful if you could reduce editing to a minimum. Thank you!