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What is a typical use for "snapshot composing"

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Is there a typical use for arranging with snapshots or is there a general use for it ?


Do., 29.12.2011 - 18:04 Permalink

The general use is to modify parameters in a sub container without affecting the source (non desctructive).

Sa., 31.12.2011 - 00:19 Permalink

Yes, i am wondering now what the workflow is to get a variation of the snapshot container instruments?


There is no "ghostsymbol" feature what draws the the source figure in the background of the snapshot figure

So., 01.01.2012 - 14:42 Permalink

The workfklow to get variation in a snapshot container is to modify the segments. You can shift them around, flip them upside down, revert them, transpose or stretch them, change their type and more.

Using the Variation parameter leads to rather random results. I would not use it for serious composition. It is better to have full control.

So., 01.01.2012 - 22:44 Permalink

Yes, is it not handy to have maybe a ghostsegement( original ) on the background of the segment where you on working for variation


The traditional varying of a theme ( e.g, sequenze, inversions, etc) has a another name and form in SFP?

Mo., 02.01.2012 - 05:22 Permalink

So much to learn about SFP. Because it's quite different from a regular DAW. we are certainly working with a 'whole new language or system'

 

Is there a way to 'mute' a container?  Or a way to mute notes in an instrument part in a particular container?  For now I'm copying it, and moving past the calculated end. 

 

I like to do a lot of A/B'ing when working. Unless I'm overlooking something I find it hard to undo certain changes I make.  It seems SFP will only 'undo' some commands, but not others, hence the copying and moving to point beyond end.

 

Oh, I suppose I could use two or more arrangements to do some of this work, hadn't dawned on me before.

 

 I haven't gotten a handle on grouping containers yet.  I wish it was as easy as Logic to cut/paste, copy containers or a number of containers

Mo., 02.01.2012 - 13:35 Permalink




The workfklow to get variation in a snapshot container is to modify the segments. You can shift them around, flip them upside down, revert them, transpose or stretch them, change their type and more.


Using the Variation parameter leads to rather random results. I would not use it for serious composition. It is better to have full control.


 


I am asking myself what is the main source of composing in SFP


- Phrase composing by imported midi files ( SFP gives for a midi track automatically some phrases ) and these are the building block for a composition? 
- Segment composing : seems to me more for detailled composing ?


Variation is a permutation of a motive in classical sense ( with notes symbols)


Well starting from scratch and draw a motive melody phrase/segment in SFP and varying this motive
It is new way of composing like @Mark S says, forget the old notes?
The rhythm of the symbols and notes are the same, but the pitch is different, so when you draw 4 (quarter) symbols in a measure with snap to 1/4 and want to use a dotted quarter symbol combined with a eight symbol ..you must chance the snap value?
It is all about structure.. so i must give the symbols a wanted structure
The classical tools for melodic motive development...translated to SFP
Let me practice and start with one measure and draw a figure in it and than make variations on this
Or start right away with a intro of 4 measures draw the music in it ( sounds better than symbols :) and try to make variations


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I think most composer working with SFP will have a large collections of phrases in the library and midi files, use this a startpoint for their composition too 
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Try also compose a short melody in SFP and harmonize this and add a bass too
Set this up in the arrangement with a rootcontainer ( for melody and bass( you must stay in a rootcontainer?) and add harmony container.
I draw the chord tones in the snapshotcontainer together with the melodytones..(oh.. is this right workflow ?) 
Than i can make also a snapshot container from a another snapshotcontainer too
The problem is not get lost for me in the container logic, because it is not yet clear for me if you build up a composition than it is the best way to do it in a root container or with seperate instrument lanes in the arrangement window?
Than there is also a harmonizer function in SFP ( as in HN2) to use?
So what is the good workflow for harmonizing a melody in SFP