How to make a tempo track and signature track in Synfire

That's a idea, but i like to do right it way in Synfire.

Like a fiddler's elbow ..haha
Perhaps with a windcontroller, but you must have good lungs..or a footpedal, but normally you can draw this or with a mod wheel
I like also to have the volume parameter curve starting from the bottom that it stays under the symbols (like in Cubase), but how get a tempo curve in Synfire ?
It is a endless search for how to get working with this software.

Compare this with Cubase how you work with a tempo and signature track and now in Synfire ?
Basic handling ..why not a permanent tempo track and signature track in Synfire?

I made tempocontainer ( no need to go to  Cubase!).. and try  also to make a singnaturecontainer

Yes it is no real problem, but better is to have a permanent  signature/ tempo map in Synfire..agree..disagree ?

I mean with "permanent" that the tempo and signature have fixed tracks like in Cubase, so there is no need for setting up containers for them. 

Ok , yes tempo is a global parameter and is permanent, but scheme is also global parameter and is permanent present.

By permanent i mean that the containers for both paramteres are already there in Synfire and must be only activated , like the 2 tracks in Cubase for tempo and signature too.

So the tempo track and signature tracks are more userfriendly in Synfire..can they be placed under the rootcontainer ?    

I exported a midi from Cubase with tempo and signature track and imported this in Synfire, but the tempotrack and signature track is not overtaken from Cubase in Synfire by the midi ( not included in de midi file specifications ? )

Thanks

I will try this out in Cubase and meanwhile i managed to setup manual a tempo and signature track in Synfire
I imported a Cubase midi with a tempo change and a signature chance..both paramters are correct imported by Synfire and for the signature Synfire comes up with some containers , but this went wrong

The time signature is from 4/4 to 2/4 and then back to 4/4 ..so there were 3 signature containers under the master container  necessary, but the last container has not the correct length to the end of the rootcontainer.

This makes that i am not sure if the signature containers now have the right length in the imported midi

Is it not easier to have one tempocontainer for all tracks in Synfire ?--> all tracks must now be loaded with the tempo parameter..a chance in tempo must be made for all tracks individual 

I will enclose the midi and test if the signature container is correct  imported ? ( a fantastic midi !!! )

http://www.sounds-inline.com/templates/scoretemplates/discombobulate_sherlock_holmes_cubase_cpr_file

I am not sure if the fixed option for transport gives the tempotrack ?

In Cubase, make sure the tempo track is activated on the Transport Panel (if it's not activated, I think it says Fixed but I'm at work now so can't check!).  Cubase will then include tempo and signature in the MIDI file.

I imported the midi and cannot ascertain if i used the fixed option yes or no ( it  seems to me that it is not a "fixed tempo"for the imported mid , because it has tempo chances )--> i think you must use the option "tempo track" in Cubase for export the tempochanges in the exported midi from cubase  ( try out the two options )
Cubase has also a extra tempo track export file in xml format,but that is not handy for Synfire as i can do it with a imported midi.

But with this import of the midi i got the tempotrack of the Cubase on the individual tracks of Synfire

As Juergen suggested...use one container for the tempo
So i must find out what is the exact export option for Cubase and how to get the tempo in one container. ( see Juergen )   
note: Cubase has a tempotrack editor..has Synfire also something similair to this ?

Yes, in Cubase choose option tempo track on transport and tempochances tickbox for import in Synfire, then you get a tempotrack for rootcontainer, the signature is also imported, although it seems in a imported midi not correct the signature containers.
How does the Cubase tempotrack editor works compare with Synfire ? 

You can do that. You can use for instance the rootcontainer as a "tempocontainer". Just place a tempo parameter for the whole arrangement there.

In Syfire when you import a midi, all midi tracks are loaded in a root (master) container ( the top container ).
Also when adding by hand  instruments in a arrangementscreen ..you fill the rootcontainer.

For the tempo parameter one can draw a vector for it in arrangement screen.
- choose parameter tempo on parameterblock.
- display selected parameters instead of always showing the figure (toggle).
- construct a vector (line) by hand or wheel.