Create Sketch From Instruments in Current Song: Possible directly from song window?

Juergen,

I'm not finding it. I went through all the drop down menus in the song page and I can't seem to find anything about saving the current sketch.

Prado

Thanks, Supertonic!

I must say that for a very obvious program feature the implementation seems convoluted and less than intuitive. I would have thought those functions would be or also be in the context menu. i.e., right click on an instrument and open the menu, with intruments in the song window.

And, with imported phrases to instruments currently in the song rack, why is there the 'play live' step when the instruments in the rack are already playing 'live?'

Is this documented in the manual? I searched, but did not come across it.

At any rate, I am gratified to have discovered it.

Prado

Okay, that is clearer, but not what I was asking about.

I was interested in having opened a sketch, importing some different midi pharases to the individual instruments and then saving the modified sketch as a new sketch template.

There could be a direct link to 'Sketch Save as template' from the context menu in song/ instruments and/ or from the main Instruments menu. This would be user friendly.

I see how the modified sketch is logically part of the current song, but it still seems more like a 'save' than a 'save as' operation for the hosted sketch.

There are clearly some GUI design philosophy issues here. Every developer has the legitimate right to design how the software works. But from the user view, the more consistently a program works with respect to the organization of menus/ functions with other programs, the easier it will be to learn ... and the more likely favorability of the potential customer.

HN and SynFire are brilliant programs demanding more from the user to fully benefit, but in my opinion, at every opportunity the developer should strive to make operations as straight forward and intuitive as possible to ameliorate that learning curve.

You didn't answer whether the saving of a modified sketch from instruments in a song is documented. Is it?

Thank you.

Prado

But it is confusing ... so I do need to first select "Live" ... even though the sketch is already playing in the song and i am hearing it?

This is three steps, i think: Playback/ select live; Playback/ select edit sketch; and,  Edit/ save template as.

I'm not trying to 'micro manage'  how many steps are required ... just suggesting that work flow is considered from the viewpoint of what is intuitive for a user. This is mainly about what menu things are found/ available within. I am suggesting this going forward.

It is difficult to see why a sketch is not equally as logically nested under Instrument as Playback.

I've asked twice and you have not responded, so I must assume this is not documented in the  manual. I certainly couldn't find it.

Supertonic, you are a much appreciated fountain of patience ... and responsive, helpful information. Please understand my comments as intended as not only helpful to myself, but potentially benefitting other users, and thereby the developers.

I wouldn't be bothering if I could find this information in the documentation.

I think the manual needs an appendix list of window by window, menu by menu concise definitions/ explanations of every menu item. Many are obvious and known to all, e.g., save, but many are obscure and only pertinent to Cognitone's products.

Such a chart/ listing would save you a lot of grief.

Prado