Nesting level Synfire Express too little

Ok with one nesting level you can do it to setup your arrangement ,, but the big shortcoming of Synfire Express is that it has no articulation for modern popmusic  sounds found in HALion 4 ( guitar , sax, and some more )
It is not the music studio program where you can express your self with articulated sounds..it is boring. 

But i don't see the necessity to go immediately to Synfire Pro !
Synfire Express is targed  as a mainstream studiocomposer for the mass ..like Cubase ( now with the new scorecomposer what is under development..awesome )

I think, by adding some articulationsounds in Synfire Express it becomes a much more attractive  modern composer.

I don't have plans to upgrade to Synfire Pro forthe near future, i am hoping that that Synfire Express gets his articulations ..who knows? 

For keyswitching, try this. On your 'instrument' (which I would prefer to call a 'track' that is linked to a prototying algorithm defined by a specific GM instrument) with the sax try adding a static note at the point of the key switch and keep adjusting it until you find where it triggers the VSTi keyswitch. Once you find one keyswitch, you know you are near the other ones. So you see if the articulation you want is triggered.

Thanks!

Ok..i understand it now ( "the coin is fallen" : as we said in Dutch, but is my free proverb ;) )  i add static notes on the sax track what triggers my keyswitch in HALion 4 ; ).. .that's look the same idea what Steinberg is using with the expressionmap.

HALion 4 uses a Midi module : key switch remote ..what has 3 Key Switch Modes ( Keyswitch/Remapped and Controller) and a Midi module: Key switch alternate.
Halion4 shows the keyswitch area on a keyboard for original and remapped area..let me try to add static notes !

 In my opinion most modern synths use midi cc to modulate their sounds and synfire express supports this.

That's luckily in Synfre this midi CC, otherwise it becomes a poor arrangement.

However have you tried adding a separate 'track' on the same channel and using static notes to effect the keyswitch changes? You might even be able to merge the two tracks together although I haven't mixed static and other types in the same 'track' so I don't know if this works.

 No idea how this works ?
There is a trick to do this and it is mentioned here on the forum here earlier, but i did nothing with it , at that time :)

Alternatively maybe your daw can be setup to convert midi cc to keyswitch notes?

Problem is here how to convert this ?..as earlier dicussed here

Lastly if you have some instruments free in synfire express maybe you could setup the same instrument but with a different keyswitch enabled?

Interesting, but for instance the sax in HALion has 8 articulations to name something..and 16 channels is the max of Synfire Express. 

So if you go on the jazz tour with a sax and  jazz guitar, probably you have used 16 channels for the articulations 
This is a dead end.

Thanks ..good ideas

Thanks @Blacksun for your ideas!

I just did some manipulations with the absolute pitch symbols in Synfire E

- My lowest keyswitch area on the HALion 4 keyboard starts default on C-2--> i don't get this pitch C-2 with a absolute symbol  ..it is bound by the middle instrument sound ranges dictated by Synfire. ( choosen by me in the arrrangement window ) 

I think i must adjust the middle soundrange for the SAX and drag the needed pitches there in instrument range  

I did make some progress.. finally!

See enclosed pics ..it seems to be rather easy now to assign the keyswitch in HALion to static symbols
Beware that the existing used instrument range must be extended to the lower keyregions, before the static symbols can be trigger the keyswitch.

Note: i made a mistake in the pic F#-1 pitch  must be articulation : "Doits No Attacks"   and not articulation Falls Long no Attack on F-1

But it works the same like now in Cubase...When HALion on the same time is opened with Synfire you can see in HALion 4 easy the note Pitch value in the tab : parameter inspector.

Sounds good !..now only learning more about the sax articulations and others in HALion 4
It seems rather easy to do, to assign the static symbols as triggernotes for the keyswitches in HAlion 4.
A long desired feature has now become reality...but Cubase has still a easier way of working and it work there a lot more easy and better to assign the articulations.
So this is rather simple in Synfire Express compared with Cubase 6.5 ( there you have a easy oversight of what articulation is used ( name written on it, coloring )

So if it is possible to chance the outlook of the static notes...name on it and perhaps with coloring ?
Perhaps it is possible in Synfire E add a new class of Symbols for articulation ?   

i tried to make a tune with the articulation in Synfire express by using a static track
As aspected it is not suitable for doing this the static track for more complex multiple articulations ..easy and quick.
Note manipulations on the static track is too much work and clumsy, if the instrument track and the static notes are in the same editor track. ( i must scroll down the static notes to the right octave and all is very small to be seen )  

There also not loop recording possible to add the articulations, although  with the keyboard i can add articulations from HAlion 4 and these triggernotes must be recorded than

Live adding multiple articulations is not the workflow for Cubase, but there it works in the editor ..so the same must be for Synfire.

I will will try a demo of Synfire pro and looking how it is there working adding articulations to get a idea if it is there easy to add articulations and keep oversight.