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what i want is.
*Mapping key switches in Audio&midi setup->Device-> On the range...
choose an articulation from a window(pre mapped keyswitches) to a selected note/selection of note, (Look at Cubase 5 VST Expression here is a video : (http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/musicproduction/cubase5_product/cu…) )
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**Now to Sync
first of i had very big problems with logic 8/9 to get it in sync with synfire so i have tested some different Daw (bidule(unstable and crash) Live(No thank) Reaper(unstable and crash) Then i found Studio One, Damn! it's so good)
Does Synfire works like this "When I press the play button it do all the calculation and then start? if not way all this about Rewire latency? its the first program i have to set this up! its verry irritating to have to go to synfire to press play. way not both way rewire?. the solution to this problem if the problem is like how i have describe it above. is a pre rendering bottom or a Vst/au Synfire bridge that work like this" the synfire does a vst/au that you setup in your host, the plugin does nothing but using the plugin delay compensation for all the delay that synfire needs to calculate
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Drag and drop midi track between Synfire and host..
Drag 1 track midi file directly in to synfire take, all the importing for drum patterns is time consuming..
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A Drum editor is a most have. editing drum patterns inside synfire is not fun...
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Orchidee
Mon, 2009-09-21 - 12:28 Permalink
Hi orchidee, thanks for posting a video. Unfortunately it is somewhat difficult for me to understand even after listening twice. I don't know if it's just me, or the muffled sound.
If you could summarize your points in a short bullet list, I think this would help a lot.
Thanks!
Tue, 2009-09-29 - 00:47 Permalink
hi orchidee, first off sorry for the delay. I didn't see you edited your original post, because this does not issue a notification email. Now for your suggestions:
A small palette window or toolbar for articulations seems like a nice idea! At this time articulations are picked from the menu in the phrase editor. An articulation is always attached to a figure segment and not drawn on the timeline like in Cubase. It's not perfect yet, but we believe this is far superior to a separate timeline.
ReWire: Synfire acts as a slave, that is, the DAW reacts to transport commands issued by Synfire. It can not work the other direction yet. The connection between slave and master is very slow. It is intended for GUI controls, not real-time synch (note: Synfire generates MIDI streams, not audio signals). Another difficulty is that Synfire can have multiple transports open at the same time (you can open as many arrangements you like and copy/paste/play/stop freely in random order).
BTW: A pre-render button is not necessary. After you rendered the arrangement once (by pressing play), it is cached and ready to play again.
The ReWire latency is the time the transport message takes to reach the DAW and until it responds with the actual playback. It has nothing to do with plug-in delay compensation. Synfire is a GUI that communicates with the ReWire engine that is loaded directly into the DAW. The MIDI notes however need to stream via external MIDI to the DAW. This time also adds to the latency.
We would love to drag/drop phrases to and from other DAWs, if they would support it. Synfire can do this, but unfortunately not a single DAW on earth does (yet).
Concerning a drum editor. Have you tried drawing static pitch symbols? You can move them around with the arrow keys, duplicate, stretch, etc., which is very convenient. There is no big difference compared to other piano roll style MIDI editors. What exactly did you have in mind?
Tue, 2009-09-29 - 14:36 Permalink
Sorry, I need to make my self more clear,
1. An Automatic Calibration tool to setup sync between host (if synfire don't can do it on it self)
2. about Drag and drop Many host DO support OF DRAG AND DROP MIDI FILES like "123.mid on my desktop, i can drag the midi file into a midi track in my Host" what I want is when I grab i instrument track inside a Container and drag it to my host, synfire Do a midi file of the instrument track whit the length of the Container
3. A separate Transporter Bar, because you don't can use your host's Transporter Bar (THIS IS IRRITATING) Switch app just to press play not good!
4. Drum editor , yes i have mapped drums in symfire with static pitch, and its no fun when you have more then 5 samples, the problem is
You never know where the samples are,.. if you could drop a midi file on the drum track and it landed in TAKE, this would not be a problem.
To Do the hole import is a bit overkill for a 4 bar single track drumloop.
here is a drum editor
(http://www.korg.com/services/promotions/d888/CubaseLE-DrumEditor.png)
Orchidee
Wed, 2009-09-30 - 14:10 Permalink
A calibration tool is a nice idea. We will think about it.
Drag and drop is a huge problem. The example you mentioned is a different thing. Dropping files from the desktop or file system onto an app is simple. What's difficult is to drop data that was dragged off another app. No DAW to date does recognize the system clipboard:
(https://users.cognitone.com/node/1529)
Re Drums: Did you know you can see the GM drum note names when the instrument is a drumkit and the symbol is static pitch? (see attached picture).
(drumkits.png)
Wed, 2009-10-07 - 22:49 Permalink
yes a see, but drag i midi file to take, To me it dont seems to be a big effort, the hole process is done when i record my keyboard only that the midi comes from i file, Yes i see your pic and it very unrealistic because I always need to go -27 to get my drums No grid nothing to guide me, do i do something wrong?
Thu, 2009-10-08 - 10:07 Permalink
Drag and drop for midi files looks like a reasonable idea. I've put this on the feature requests list.
The piano roll grid you are missing would be more difficult. Vector views currently do not scroll vertically. Instead they scale to the value range automatically. The full range of 127 keys would not fit the view size at this time.
Besides that, figures can contain mixed symbols of all colors of which static pitch (p) is only one. A piano roll editor requires an entirely new type of vector view. Possibly a switchable legend may also help ... we will see. Or perhaps a new hyper edit mode?
BTW: Once you inserted a symbol at -27, the view automatically scales to that range and stays there.
Thu, 2009-10-29 - 07:47 Permalink
We have an item on our list that reads "Provide support for partial midi export". We think of individual containers, tracks, or even selections.
