Great. Certainly one of your best. And definitively dark enough.
But it still belongs to the category "pleasantly soothing dark". Then there would be the categories "desperate darkness", "hopeless darkness" and "doomsday darkness". But I know, it's difficult to achieve. Synfire is just too friendly for that. There is no "Darkness" parameter :)
But it still belongs to the category "pleasantly soothing dark". Then there would be the categories "desperate darkness", "hopeless darkness" and "doomsday darkness".
@juergen thanks for introducing Singer: Synthesizer V's voice SOLARIA AI
I've used this with Synfire and MotionLeap AIs to create the following short demo track: hopefully hopelessly dark
That's very kind of you. I felt the snippet I created sounded like a cross between Freddie Mercury and Gollum's song ☺️. Massively impressed with the technology and it integrates reasonably well with Synfire.
Yes, isn't it amazing, how these singing synthesizers have improved over the last few years? I've been using Vocaloid voices for years, but this is really something else. When I tried Solaria for the first time, I was blown away too. The power of AI...
hey @jeurgen I was reflecting a bit more on Synfire's difficulty in doing dark. I think this may because Synfire is harmonically inclined, whereas really dark stuff is more about texture and dissonance possibly.
here is an old dark track I made as a VR video that explored dark textures. It was also made using Synfire, but didn't use much of the harmonic functionality of Synfire.
I was reflecting a bit more on Synfire's difficulty in doing dark. I think this may because Synfire is harmonically inclined, whereas really dark stuff is more about texture and dissonance possibly.
That's how it is. Synfire is not made for really weird stuff. Screaming chromatics and intervals, like for a horror movie, are a bit difficult with Synfire. It's certainly all doable somehow, but at the end Synfire thinks and works in scales, keys and chords.
Cool. Just returned from a few days off and found this great conversation going on here.
These vocal synths are really amazing. I wonder how they pull this off with only financial and management positions in the team, though. Hope the code is safe.
Synfire thinks and works in scales, keys and chords
Depends on which scales and chords you choose. Many chords are extremely dissonant (make sure they appear on palettes). Also, if your chord changes are fast, chances are you will get more unexpected passing tones.
You can do pretty dark stuff with Synfire. It's merely the default palette that sticks to pleasant major/minor harmony. Check out the Chromatic Maze examples, or do your own mixed-scale palettes (scale sets) and use chromatic scales and moves and complex chords.
Oh and, switch off VL more often. In the extreme, you can also go chromatic per segment.
After all, music is an artifact of human culture. So once you found out what constitutes "darkness" in the language of music, you are ready to go. Synfire can provide it all. A mere series of "dark chords" at 1m each won't probably do the trick. To be honest, I'm no expert, but there's definitely more involved, like percussion, echoes, noises, extremely low strings in contrast to very high pitches, etc.
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Do., 05.01.2023 - 09:05 Permalink
Great. Certainly one of your best. And definitively dark enough.
But it still belongs to the category "pleasantly soothing dark". Then there would be the categories "desperate darkness", "hopeless darkness" and "doomsday darkness". But I know, it's difficult to achieve. Synfire is just too friendly for that. There is no "Darkness" parameter :)
Do., 05.01.2023 - 15:06 Permalink
> There is no "Darkness" parameter
LOL!
Fr., 06.01.2023 - 17:50 Permalink
@juergen thanks for introducing Singer: Synthesizer V's voice SOLARIA AI
I've used this with Synfire and MotionLeap AIs to create the following short demo track: hopefully hopelessly dark
(https://youtube.com/shorts/nbTh1JriLmw)
Fr., 06.01.2023 - 19:57 Permalink
Impressive. I can see that with you, the Solaria voice is in the best hands. :)
Fr., 06.01.2023 - 20:08 Permalink
That's very kind of you. I felt the snippet I created sounded like a cross between Freddie Mercury and Gollum's song ☺️. Massively impressed with the technology and it integrates reasonably well with Synfire.
Fr., 06.01.2023 - 20:20 Permalink
Yes, isn't it amazing, how these singing synthesizers have improved over the last few years? I've been using Vocaloid voices for years, but this is really something else. When I tried Solaria for the first time, I was blown away too. The power of AI...
Fr., 06.01.2023 - 21:43 Permalink
And I've just asked ChatGPT for lyrics to a dark song. And it came up with this:
(Starting to go off topic now, sorry Andre)
Here are some lyrics for a dark song:
Verse 1: I'm sinking in the darkness No light to guide me through I'm lost in endless shadows No sign of morning dew
Chorus: I'm trapped in this hell forever No escape from the night I'm screaming for a savior But nobody hears my cries
Verse 2: I'm suffocating in the darkness The air is thin and cold I'm reaching for a lifeline But it's slipping from my hold
Chorus: I'm trapped in this hell forever No escape from the night I'm screaming for a savior But nobody hears my cries
Bridge: I'm begging for a miracle I'm praying for a way out But the darkness just surrounds me I'm fading with every shout
Chorus: I'm trapped in this hell forever No escape from the night I'm screaming for a savior But nobody hears my cries
Fr., 06.01.2023 - 22:29 Permalink
I was almost about to tell you, from now on you have to write lyrics for your songs. But not even that is necessary anymore. :-))
Sa., 07.01.2023 - 21:41 Permalink
Here is the lyrical version!
Sa., 07.01.2023 - 22:34 Permalink
Amazing. I think, this voice fits perfectly to your music style.
Sa., 07.01.2023 - 23:04 Permalink
Thanks @juergen
this one's Mai rather than Solaria, as the latter sounds more Broadway.
So., 08.01.2023 - 08:29 Permalink
Interesting. There is also the voice ASTERIAN. If you want the Dark Lord to sing himsrlf... :)
So., 08.01.2023 - 10:39 Permalink
The Dark Lord never sings. :o
Wasn't too convinced by Asterian, for some reason the bass register doesn't seem to have been cracked by AI yet.
So., 08.01.2023 - 17:59 Permalink
hey @jeurgen I was reflecting a bit more on Synfire's difficulty in doing dark. I think this may because Synfire is harmonically inclined, whereas really dark stuff is more about texture and dissonance possibly.
here is an old dark track I made as a VR video that explored dark textures. It was also made using Synfire, but didn't use much of the harmonic functionality of Synfire.
So., 08.01.2023 - 19:50 Permalink
That's how it is. Synfire is not made for really weird stuff. Screaming chromatics and intervals, like for a horror movie, are a bit difficult with Synfire. It's certainly all doable somehow, but at the end Synfire thinks and works in scales, keys and chords.
Mo., 09.01.2023 - 00:09 Permalink
different style but this was the closest I could get to a dark track with synfire
Mo., 09.01.2023 - 00:39 Permalink
I like that @blacksun. Has cyberpunk undertones. Really cool!
Mo., 09.01.2023 - 12:41 Permalink
Cool. Just returned from a few days off and found this great conversation going on here.
These vocal synths are really amazing. I wonder how they pull this off with only financial and management positions in the team, though. Hope the code is safe.
Depends on which scales and chords you choose. Many chords are extremely dissonant (make sure they appear on palettes). Also, if your chord changes are fast, chances are you will get more unexpected passing tones.
You can do pretty dark stuff with Synfire. It's merely the default palette that sticks to pleasant major/minor harmony. Check out the Chromatic Maze examples, or do your own mixed-scale palettes (scale sets) and use chromatic scales and moves and complex chords.
Oh and, switch off VL more often. In the extreme, you can also go chromatic per segment.
After all, music is an artifact of human culture. So once you found out what constitutes "darkness" in the language of music, you are ready to go. Synfire can provide it all. A mere series of "dark chords" at 1m each won't probably do the trick. To be honest, I'm no expert, but there's definitely more involved, like percussion, echoes, noises, extremely low strings in contrast to very high pitches, etc.
Mo., 09.01.2023 - 19:49 Permalink
I would have such a nice comment on that remark, but I'll hold back. ;)
Mo., 09.01.2023 - 20:50 Permalink
Yeah, that's next level darkness :)