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Shared racks & global instruments

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So, it took me a long time to setup the plugins in the shared racks, with descriptions and all.
But when I try to load a shared rack in an instrument, nothing happens, i can only choose 1 and theres no sound.
The manual is not really clear about it .

I tried to setup the global instruments, but when I choose shared racks for the first channel, it also changes for the next two (chords & bass).
It's driving me nuts... I have a fair understanding of midi and stuff, but this is really beyond me...


Mo., 08.10.2012 - 23:59 Permalink

Soundassigning in Synfire is not easy..use the flowchart..but i see it now!.. it explains nothing about a shared rack!

What is a shared rack ..that must be explained on the flowchart ?.. there is/are video about soundassigning a shared rack

But i like to see all relevant soundassigning information also on the flowdiagram
So the flowdiagram must be updated by Cognitone

Impossible to memorize all this and a handy flowdiagram is the solution, but is must show all information

Di., 09.10.2012 - 00:02 Permalink

That flow chart is more designed to be used when creating a new song. You wouldnt create a shared rack for each song. The idea of a shared rack is you put all the effort in once, then pretty much leave it alone after that. It is a shared rack, to be shared and available to every tune. So as far as creating a new tune, you just decide you want an instrument from the shared rack and select it.

To create a shared rack its best to follow one of the tutorial videos on the topic

Di., 09.10.2012 - 00:28 Permalink

To create a shared rack its best to follow one of the tutorial videos on the topic

But i like to have also a flowchart for a shared rack in words and pictures and the definition of a shared rack on the flowchart too.

A shared rack is for general use... open a new empty arrangment and a another ....and assign a shared rack to it

You can use over and over again the same sounds in a arrangement 

The video is supporting this video information

I like to see the distinction between per song or all songs in synfire itself  

Di., 09.10.2012 - 09:16 Permalink

Flow charts only make it more confusing, except for people with a technical or scientific background.

There really is nothing special about the shared rack. Just drop a plug-in on the "Shared Rack" port list, populate it with the desired sounds and connect it to a device. If you do not yet have one, make a new one. All this is shown in the videos: 

 

@Phys6: Can you post a screenshot of your Audio & MIDI Setup window (Shared rack port list)?

Mi., 10.10.2012 - 10:53 Permalink

Flow charts only make it more confusing, except for people with a technical or scientific background.

I partly agree with you..

Well i found the flow diagram very useful..i follow the yes or no routing and all information is there.
It is only not complete.. and can be more improved ( userfriendly).

It is written on paper so..it can be studied easily, while the video is more demanding to follow. 

Ok, you refer to a video for a shared rack.. has this video the same title as "shared rack" ? That makes it much easier to know where to look for the right video.  

Where to find this video "shared rack" ?

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I like to see in this list https://users.cognitone.com/tutorials/synfire  a separation of how to make music in Synfire and how to setup Synfire
And add the video : setting up a shared rack

Now it is clear ..

I like also the flowchart that it will be finished for all soundassigning ( make the quality better too, that everything is clear to read ) 

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Yes .. Setting Up Global Instruments is the video for a shared rack it seems...NO it is for the global instruments

Were is the shared rack video than ?

I urge Cognitone to get the right naming for the video, because i cannot find it ..
I think i found the video : Creating a Device Description by Extraction ..  --> (i am looking for a Shared Rack!)
Well the name of this video must be changed into  Creating a Device Description by Extraction ( Shared rack )

The video shows a sampler, but there are also Vsti synthesizers ..HAlion 4 is a sampler Vsti--> device extracting is not possible for a sampler, but i am not sure about Halion4 ?

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In my case the automatic device extraction is not working ( i must contact further Steinberg about this( oi already did) )

The video  Creating a Device Description by Extraction starts not at the begin : a empty arrangement with a unassigned sound
It starts right away in the setup screen..so i did a setup with 3 sounds assigned with Halion4 like in the video, but than i go back to the arrangement screen ..what will i see there ?

The default state of Synfire..one unassigned sound ----> this must be changed also after making the device description !

( also to test asssigned sound thatis connected..how ? and a "sweet spot"for a sound is acadabra for me)

 So what is the startcondition in Synfire ( arrangement view ) for using a shared rack?..this is not showed in the video

Start with a empty arrangement--> setup shared rack--> setup arrangement with the sounds of the shared rack by clicking on the instrumentname in the arrangement window

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Ok i added the 3 sounds in the arrangmentvieuw ..and it works now!

 

This video must be improved, because it is not userfriendly

 

 

 

 

Mi., 10.10.2012 - 19:28 Permalink

Yes, the video is partly covering the setup and has the wrong name..is it logic? ..that you have trouble to set this up..answer : yes