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Multiple Chords?

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I have a question I am trying to get a gospel soul kind of sound an everything I come across has you playing one chord with your left hand and another with your right simultaneously. Take this for instance:
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Can I do this using the pallets in HN? Here is some background on my situation:

(http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257334&postdays=0&postord…)

Thanks in advance.


Thu, 2009-09-03 - 17:52 Permalink

Hm. Quite interesting point.

Whether that what the guy was playing in the video is really two separate chords or just one very complex chord, is a difficult question. From a holistic harmony perspective, it's only one. From the player's hands perspective it's two.

HN does not support polytonality (Synfire Pro can). Coming with the next version HN2, you can enter slash chords. You may also create arbitrarily complex chords in the catalog now already. The dificulty however is to tell the left and right hand to only use certain portions of the harmony, because in HN you can't edit the figures in detail.

Therefore the short answer is: No, unless you have no issues with letting HN decide how to interpret the complex chords.

I would suggest you wait for the HN2 demo and check out for yourself.

Thu, 2009-09-03 - 20:19 Permalink

Hm. Quite interesting point.

Whether that what the guy was playing in the video is really two separate chords or just one very complex chord, is a difficult question. From a holistic harmony perspective, it's only one. From the player's hands perspective it's two.

HN does not support polytonality (Synfire Pro can). Coming with the next version HN2, you can enter slash chords. You may also create arbitrarily complex chords in the catalog now already. The dificulty however is to tell the left and right hand to only use certain portions of the harmony, because in HN you can't edit the figures in detail.

Therefore the short answer is: No, unless you have no issues with letting HN decide how to interpret the complex chords.

I would suggest you wait for the HN2 demo and check out for yourself.

Is it possible to have two instances open so I can have two separate pallets sending midi to my host at the same time with one of the pallets set to play the lower portion of the keyboard?

Fri, 2009-09-04 - 07:57 Permalink

Can't really "navigate" the different harmonies if I have to pre enter them. I'm not a trained composer or so I need to mess around and experiment since I don't know how it will sound before hand.

Fri, 2009-09-04 - 19:26 Permalink

Surfing multiple palettes stills renders all chords in sequence.

HN has a coloring scheme that highlights subsets and subtriads of complex chords. This way you can navigate a palette and see which simpler chords are included inside the big chord.

The picture shows what happens when you press Fm(b5,6,9). The yellow boxes indicate that this chord includes the other chords Csus4/2, Ddim, Fsus2, Fm, Fdim, G, Gsus4, G#(b5), G#dim and Bdim.

Hey, that's 10 chords pressed at the same time ;-)

I mean, you can't press more than all twelve keys at the same time, so the number of possible chords is limited. All those combinations of pitches that make at least minimal sense already have been given names. There is no chord possible in 12TET that HN won't play.

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Sat, 2009-09-05 - 02:14 Permalink

That is perfect. I never tried that coloring scheme. Much easier than what I had imagined. Thanks!