Great software in principal but like people have mentioned like scrolling/solo/mutes and so many clicks to accomplish such small tasks is such a slow process.
There shouldn't be anything new added when so much needs looking at on a basic level. Surely Andre, you notice these problems yourself when using Synfire?
This programme is so much more interesting to me than DAWs but so many bugs its a pain.
Richiep1, just about every single bug spukipuki mentioned on the original post here was addressed and fixed within one week. So the bugs you mentioned were fixed already. Tbh, i personally havent experienced a crash or bug since. Can you be specific and list everything that you are having a problem with, be as detailed as possible.
Some trackpad and touch screen gestures are not yet supported. Please use Alt + mouse wheel (or equivalent gestures) for now.
The user interface feels a bit non-standard because the programming language we needed to research and develop the unique features of Synfire runs on a dozen different hardware platforms and its API is limited to their common denominator. We are doing our best to work around that and make it as convenient as possible until we have a replacement.
Synfire would not exist without the agility and 10x productivity of our development tools. You can code a program while it's running (we can literally change playback code during a running playback). That's indispensable for uncharted territory and AI development. Now that all the innovative stuff has settled however, we plan on porting the UI to C++ (on which the Audio Engine is based). That will make it as fast and responsive as a DAW. Some of it is already done (no ETA yet).
In Logic you can with only one tool, with pensel tool, you can create a note, select a note, move, delete (dubble click) and resize a note.
You can now do this with Synfire as well. The new update fixed it. Scrolling and zooming have also been improved further. And we achieved faster response times on macOS (which was slowed down by the global menu bar that Windows doesn't have).
There are still non-technical challenges, like navigating parameters and views with as few steps as possible. That's hard. In a DAW you merely have audio regions, MIDI regions, and automation lanes, all arranged on a flat sheet from left to right. A single click takes you anywhere. A hierarchical container structure with dozens of parameters requires more steps (and thought processes). Optimizing screen layout and navigation thus takes more experimentation and planning.
Sun, 2025-02-09 - 22:12 Permalink
Great software in principal but like people have mentioned like scrolling/solo/mutes and so many clicks to accomplish such small tasks is such a slow process.
There shouldn't be anything new added when so much needs looking at on a basic level. Surely Andre, you notice these problems yourself when using Synfire?
This programme is so much more interesting to me than DAWs but so many bugs its a pain.
Mon, 2025-02-10 - 03:01 Permalink
Richiep1, just about every single bug spukipuki mentioned on the original post here was addressed and fixed within one week. So the bugs you mentioned were fixed already. Tbh, i personally havent experienced a crash or bug since. Can you be specific and list everything that you are having a problem with, be as detailed as possible.
Mon, 2025-02-10 - 12:17 Permalink
I will start listing bugs for sure, you say all has been fixed what about the simple act of being able to pinch in and out for zooming on a Mac?
It's like this software is so advanced in some areas but so behind in others.
Mon, 2025-02-10 - 18:12 Permalink
Some trackpad and touch screen gestures are not yet supported. Please use Alt + mouse wheel (or equivalent gestures) for now.
The user interface feels a bit non-standard because the programming language we needed to research and develop the unique features of Synfire runs on a dozen different hardware platforms and its API is limited to their common denominator. We are doing our best to work around that and make it as convenient as possible until we have a replacement.
Synfire would not exist without the agility and 10x productivity of our development tools. You can code a program while it's running (we can literally change playback code during a running playback). That's indispensable for uncharted territory and AI development. Now that all the innovative stuff has settled however, we plan on porting the UI to C++ (on which the Audio Engine is based). That will make it as fast and responsive as a DAW. Some of it is already done (no ETA yet).
Mon, 2025-02-10 - 19:05 Permalink
Wow, that sounds like a big and daring change. You win some things, but you would also loose things.
Sun, 2025-02-16 - 11:24 Permalink
You can now do this with Synfire as well. The new update fixed it. Scrolling and zooming have also been improved further. And we achieved faster response times on macOS (which was slowed down by the global menu bar that Windows doesn't have).
There are still non-technical challenges, like navigating parameters and views with as few steps as possible. That's hard. In a DAW you merely have audio regions, MIDI regions, and automation lanes, all arranged on a flat sheet from left to right. A single click takes you anywhere. A hierarchical container structure with dozens of parameters requires more steps (and thought processes). Optimizing screen layout and navigation thus takes more experimentation and planning.