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Hi
I can not find the midi drone option in synfire 1.7 Beta,please anyone knows where is?
Thanks
Regards
Sun, 2013-09-01 - 01:39 Permalink
Hi
Andre thanks to your fast reply
Ok,now i see the problem
I did several templates with Ableton-Synfire with drones & Reaper
And now when i open them the midi drones not appeared as i save them
See the picture,now appear as Node Engines,not as DAW2 midi drones as i save them,with the check boxes of the midi drones marked
Then,need i to create a new templates? or is possible to changes the Node Engines as DAW2 RAcks?
* In the Audio & Midi setup window in the Inputs tab appear different DAW2 vst drone input,if i check their boxes what can i do with those input? one example please
And the Driver IAC Bus 1 midi port input,what can i use it,and the Loopback checkbox is for?
Thanks
Regards
Sun, 2013-09-01 - 05:13 Permalink
Hi
Andre forget my first example of template,it was not created with midi drones
I have opened the templates that i created with ableton or with reaper or with ableton-reaper all with midi drones and in synfire 1.7 beta none of them does not work
Before in 1.6.6 all work
First i opened ableton and second synfire but in synfire 1.7 i open first Ableton,load the template open synfire load the template and appear a message saying that i must first open the Daw and i opened first the daw,i don,t know why ask me that if in 1.6.6 never asked that me?
I press cancel and the template opened incomplete and disorganized and the midi drones boxes appear unchecked,see the pictures,appear two daws DAW1 and DAW2 ?
Must i create again all the templates new with synfire 1.7 beta?
Thanks
Regards
Sun, 2013-09-01 - 10:55 Permalink
For a test, I've opened multiple arrangements with Logic DAW drones created with 1.6.6 and they all opened fine with 1.7. The code that keeps the link between them has not changed since 1.6.6. The issue likely has another cause.
Are you sure the DAW files exactly match their associated Synfire files? Note that if you save an arrangement with "Save As…", the drones and the arrangement will receive a new unique ID. You must then also save the DAW file with "Save As…" to keep them linked. Synfire shows a warning explaining this.
If you have multiple versions of the DAW files, try these too. You need to find the two that belong together.
Sun, 2013-09-01 - 11:07 Permalink
Hi Andre
Thanks to your answer and advices
No,i save them with save and in the same folder associated.
When i opened them in synfire 1.6.6 i did not have any problem but don,t worry.
I will do again them with shared rack instead private racks.I think is possible to create a shared rack templates with midi drones and more practical that create them with private racks
Thanks to your help Andre
I know that you are very busy with the update and with our problems,i can imagine how will be your brain with much tension & responsability,you are as our mother and father :)
Regards
Mon, 2013-09-02 - 20:34 Permalink
Hi
Andre,ok i have today free time and i am trying to make a new templates but for the moment i can not because i have found a bug making containers : (https://users.cognitone.com/content/synfire-17-beta-container-bug)
I have several doubts,please clarify me:
-* When i create a template i do these steps
First i open Ableton and create one midi track with an instrument rack,inside it i create several cognitone vst drones
I create corresponding number of midi tracks,each midi in the track contains the drones
Open Synfire,In the past i created a tracks with private plugins & midi drones checkboxes checked (and you know all my templates that i created by this way now in synfire 1.7 beta don,t work)
In the present i want change my method and try by, in the Audio & Midi setup rack modules with DAW 1-2-3..... and name it corresponding with the drones: Bass-Arp.....and colour them
My doubts are:
In your ableton video tutorial says first save synfire and after ableton
-In audio & midi setup how must i save the template:
File-Save Rack & Setup or Save Rack & Setup As (save a copy)
-In ableton how must i save the template:
Save Set Live or Save Set Live As
- Can i for example one day to create a template in ableton with midi drones,save it and another day create in synfire its corresponding template and save or is mandatory save the two(synfire-ableton) at the same time or moment,first synfire,second ableton?
Regards
Tue, 2013-09-03 - 09:32 Permalink
What means "template" for you? I assume you want to create an empty project using Ableton + Synfire once, and then clone this later with Save As... to start a new project?
If yes, use the Arrangement Rack (private rack) only. On the rack, select the Ableton host and pick the DAW Drones you have loaded there with [+] or double-click. Make them MIDI Drones.
Save Synfire, then Live. Give both the same filename and put them in the same folder.
Now, when you want to start a new project based on this template, open Live first then Synfire. In Synfire do a "Save As..." then do the same "Save As..." in Live. This way both files stay linked.
Tue, 2013-09-03 - 10:18 Permalink
Hi
Andre,excuse me i forgot
Also i did several templates with 1.6 :
1* Ableton Master-Reaper Slave-Synfire
2* Reaper Master-Ableton Slave-Synfire
††† Then in 1* first i must save Synfire-save Ableton-save Reaper
Open first Ableton-open Reaper-Open Synfire
Save As first Synfire-Save as Ableton-Save As reaper
††† Then in 2* first i must save Synfire-save Reaper-save Ableton
Open first Reaper-open Ableton-Open Synfire
Save As first Synfire-Save as Reaper-Save As Ableton
Is correct?
Best Wishes
Tue, 2013-09-03 - 21:25 Permalink
Hi
I have done one template with ableton and synfire and does not work
I saved first synfire and then Ableton
I have opened the ableton project,synfire and a warning message appears,see please the png image
When i did these templates in synfire 1.6 never had a problem to open them
Regards
Wed, 2013-09-04 - 22:27 Permalink
Hi
Andre i have installed the last update and i have been creating templates all the afternoon and does not work
When i open them appears the same window error,see the png
Please can i send you in zip one of the templates and you study it?
Is clear something has changed,in 1.6 i had not any problem to open the templates
Regards
Thu, 2013-09-05 - 17:35 Permalink
Hi
I have found the secret to work,to open the old and new templates & songs in Synfire beta 1.7
In synfire 1.6 i first applied double clic directly over (for example) the template.als (Ableton) and after directly over the template.cognac and them opened without problems but...
in 1.7 beta this method for me does not work (i don,t know for another people)
I have discovered that yes work first apply double clic to the Ableton Icon (it opens empty) after double clic over the Synfire icon (it opens empty) go to ableton and load template.als go to synfire and load template.cognac
In this way yes
By the way,one question
When i opened the first version of Synfire it opens with Synfire and Engine,Synfire in foreground with a new arrangement
Now,i dont know why it opens with Synfire and Engine but Engine in foreground and when i take Synfire in foreground it is empty without any arrange,i must go to the top File-New-Arrangement
Regards
Fri, 2013-09-06 - 09:41 Permalink
Hi
Andre yes,i can not make a video gif to see it because it not record the top menus of synfire
I simply double clic over the icon of Synfire and appears in the top the menu of the Engine and i must Comand+Tab to select the synfire Menu and File- New Arrangement
Don,t worry i can compose in this way,not affect anything to the software,only we can say that is weird situation :)
Regards