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Synfire Drones

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This post refers to https://users.cognitone.com/content/synfire-drones-and-daw-track-templates but I had to start a new thread as it wouldn't let me attach a screenshot (because it's a WIKI perhaps?).

I'm getting a bit confused with this again now, as I can't seem to get separate outputs for the sounds from the drone in Cubase.  Maybe it's different to Reaper so Juergen, how did you get this to work please?

I've set up a simple drone just containing the Global Instruments.  But the CognitoneDrone in the VST Instruments folder only contains one output (default name is Output 1 L).  Even activating another output doesn't help because I can't figure out how to assign it.

I've also set up individual MIDI tracks for each channel but that doesn't help either.

Please see attached for details.

EDIT: I've just had a lightbulb moment :).  I was hosting Halion in the drone but I think I should be hosting it within Cubase!  I'm not at my music PC right now and it's late, so I'll try again tomorrow.

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Mon, 2014-09-01 - 08:05 Permalink

Yes, I'm also using the transient drones as MIDI drones. Requires some routing within Cubase, but for me that's the most stable setup. 

 

Mon, 2014-09-01 - 13:53 Permalink

It worked, lightbulbs are amazing!  I spent much of yesterday puzzling over this.  It was late last night when I was drinking some wine and playing online chess that it came to me!  It reminds me how sometimes stepping away from a problem and doing something completely different often solves the problem!

Requires some routing within Cubase

For the benefit of other Cubase users, you have to arm each track (Record Enable or Monitor), set the input to Cognitone Drone and use the Input Transformer to filter out the other tracks.

Juergen, did you manage to get Track Templates to work?  It seems that they don't load VSTs, only Project Templates do that.  I suppose you could save an instrument as a VST Preset and do it that way.  Is that what you do?

Mon, 2014-09-01 - 15:24 Permalink

Wow, thanks Jan I'll try it.  Why do some people make things so confusing I wonder?  They have track templates and track archives in Cubase :toobad:

But at least it's there, which is great!

Mon, 2014-09-01 - 15:26 Permalink

Interesting.. i just read on the Cubase forum http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=53004 that Cubase has  Track Archives.


 


User ..


Before switching to Cubase 7, I was using Reaper. Something I liked about it was the track template. For instance : I have an orchestral template (strings, woodwinds, brass...). I decide to save each section as track template. That gives me one track template for the entire string section, one for brass and so on. On a new project, if I want just the strings section and the woodwinds, I choose just those two track templates. Save a lot of Ram.

Is it possible to do the same thing in Cubase 7 ?


 


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Cubase has Track Archives.

Save them with : File>Export> Selected Tracks, import them with File>Import>Track Archive


 


 

Mon, 2014-09-01 - 15:57 Permalink

Pete ! ..it is easy to remember :  tracktemplate and trackarchives  


If this is working in Cubase by making a trackarchive with VST instruments, than you can assemble a project template with trackarchived Vst instruments.


But now with possibility to drag instruments from Synfire  into Cubase you must have in both programs the same VST 
Was it also possible to drag the instrument the other way around: from cubase to synfire ? 


But this dragging of instruments has another workflow as setting up a transient drone.


A transient drone is a VST in a DAW connected with Synfire and within Synfire you can compose
A drag and drop  Vsti is a VST bringing from Synfire to a DAW  
Perhaps you combine a setup ?  


 


 

Mon, 2014-09-01 - 16:01 Permalink

Well I've tried it but it doesn't load the instrument, which I had hoped it would.  Never mind :(

I'm not doing any dragging of instruments, just using MIDI Drones now.

EDIT: It loads the instrument if it's an instrument track but not if it's a MIDI track.  I'm using MIDI tracks for multi-timbral samplers.