Any Interest in Driving Stylus RMX from Synfire?

Hi
interesting idea
actually i am comfortable using RMX in my DAW (Reaper 64x) but i think its worth to try anyway.

if you didn't finis exporting midi files from RMX yet...
right now i am preparing from 120 bpm to the end and i can upload midi file + Reaper project... if it helps
i will finish about 15 - 20 min ( i guess)

Yes I would be interested also.  I use Stylus on a semi regular basis. So you would create MIdi tracks which drive the tracks (channels in RMX).  Yes the variations and interpretations, and other features might certainly add a lot too RMX.   

here is the part1 120 to 143 (MindBender) -510 midi files of part 1 in the Zip file. -Library needs edit the loop points.. because i imported all 510 midi files at once from 8 bars long midi file that i exported from Reaper ill upload last part soon enjoy

Erm ... sorry, you should better not publish copyrighted material to this site, unless you have the owner's permission to do so. Cognitone is running the risk of being sued. I've delisted the files. Please remove them from the post yourself.

If you want to share content personally with other users (vial email or dropbox), you may possibly do that, unless you don't post a link publicy. Cognitone is a commercial entity and we will face trouble if we tolerated public postings of copyrighted material on our web sites.

One or another example drum pattern would possibly not hurt anyone. Posting the entire "extracted" contents of a product however is an issue for sure.

oh!
i didn't know that

just for the side note ... i thought they are just slice information ..so they are wasn't actually drum midis.
for example if anyone will try to use with any of the drum module or vsti all of them become meaningless..
unless if he/she has Rmx plugin..

anyway i didn't want to cause any problem really
sorry

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So even a library that is just Synfire figures is a potential copyright violation?

Just changing the file format does not help. Importing a midi file 1:1 is a violation. Especially if you keep the original takes.

There are two situations to consider:

1. Composing music

2. Publishing digital content

Re 1 it boils down to whether the result is perceived as an original work, or a clone of a work done by someone else. Creating something new based on small snippets taken from mixed sources is not a problem. This is what every musician does today (musicians did this for centuries) and it's what Music Prototyping is about to a large extent. Since Synfire also changes everything to use your own harmony and melody, you are pretty safe. However, it's the final result that matters (the song you publish), not the tools you used to get there.

Re 2 is different. You are not acting as an artist here, but rather like a content publisher. This means you have to look at the individual license terms that came with the original content to learn what you are allowed to do with it (like software). If there is no license attached, you should should better not use it.

I am not a lawyer. So, to stay at the safe side, I would rather not see any "just imported" libraries posted here, unless the license terms allow so. If you played something yourself or built a library that is carefully selected, edited and postprocessed and the original input has only been an inspiration, that should be fine.

It's a 'sticky wicket'.    a lot of the time I'll use RMX midi slices with one of their patches, and then I'll perform a Logic Randomizer, I will let the note go 3 up or down from original pitch, I'll change the time and duration of notes. I'll slice the phrase up into 1 beat sections and rearrnge, or mix 3 or 4 different styles still using the same drum kit.. All they are really selling is the timing of the midi files *they are always chromatic:'  The total magic lies with wth drum kit they are attached too.  

Still anyone using or creating such files  knows they are only good for Stylus RMX.  But you can use the rhythmic fluctuations as groove templates for anything else.  Definietly agreed,  converting the data one to one and selling it is a huge NO NO.  But if you modify it beyond recognition they can't prove anything.

I would think anything that enhances the sales of RMS would suit Spectronics fine. 

Still owning a company and a website puts you in a far more delicate place.  You can copyright melodies, but you can't copyright chord progressions or rhythm progressions.  Eventually someone is going to come by and challenge the SFP concept.  Claiming intellectual rights for harmonic relations used in songs.  It won't hold up, but could still be expensive. 

Ok if people want to swap their efforts with others, but do not use Synfire as a place to discuss?   Part of the real power of SFP lies in it's libraries and phrases. They make all the difference in the world from mediocre to brilliant.  We each individiually have put a lot of work into our progressions, phrases, libraries.  I spent about a year accumulating, modifying, testing and creating my libraries so far.  I would love to see it be put to use by others, And probably after they incorporated it into their piece, I could not identify as my work..  

Ok if people want to swap their efforts with others, but do not use Synfire as a place to discuss? 

As long as you are presenting and sharing your own work as an artist, this is not an issue.

The problem arises only if you post comprehensive imported content for download, which could violate the license terms of the original creator or publisher. Most licenses I've seen allow artists to use the content for their own works, but do not allow anyone to re-publish it in part or as a whole.