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Hi
Still confused- in chords only mode I try to select the bass note in the progression editor- sometimes it will allow me, sometimes it will not. How can I make progressions without control of the bass
Thanks
Mon, 2013-06-10 - 19:33 Permalink
Select a chord and press 1 to get a root chord
( can't exactly remember what chords only mode stands for )---> as i suggested earlier perhaps a menu line with explanation of the function in the GUI of Synfire could help.
It is impossible to memorize all those undocumented functions + documented functions
I must say i am little bit depressed for a while from Synfire, because some base functionality is too much hidden in the program.
A good example is for 'painting symbols' ..use in the Transform menu : uncheck draw repetitions.. now you with the pencil draw in the phrase editor symbols with a choosen length.
Mon, 2013-06-10 - 20:34 Permalink
Use the + and - buttons to alter the bass. Hold ALT to apply chromatic steps.
Use Transform >> Reset Inversion to delete the bass setting. This will select a bass automatically.
All this is not "hidden", by the way.
Tue, 2013-06-11 - 01:27 Permalink
OK I see-- the real need though is for control of the octave of that bass note. I just went from bass notes G---F via a minor 7th which if I was doing this on paper I would jump the octave down of the F.
Basically control of what in UK is called the 'texture' of the chord would make it really wonderful.
Thanks
Tue, 2013-06-11 - 11:21 Permalink
Octave doubling ... it should be handy if there was one command for a root chord bass doubling for instance.
Accoording the doubling rules for triads, because not all chord notes in the triad can be used for doubling as i understand
a book source: (music theory for computer musicians
Writing a minor chord effectively for these forces would necessitate the use of far more than three notes. To solve this problem, certain notes are doubled at the octave. The best notes to double tend to be the root and fifth because these give the chord its identity and backbone. Through octave doubling
It seems that the root and fifth note can be used .. so one command for this instead of + and - to position the note under the triad.
With this you can override(overrule ? ) in the progressioneditor the Synfire magic AI
Tue, 2013-06-11 - 13:34 Permalink
Octave of the bass is controlled by the lower playing range of the global "Bass" instrument. You can set this on Audio & MIDi Setup window on "Global Instruments" tab.
Progressions are instructions & rules for all instruments. Individual instruments decide how to interpret them, hence this extra step.
Wed, 2013-06-12 - 08:29 Permalink
I absolutely understand that. LE users want a single instrument and arrange a single track of physical chords only.
The extra hoop of keeping multiple instruments in mind when designing a progression, like with Synfire, is confusing and unnecessary. This is an undesired side effect of the powerful prototyping technology being stripped down to meet the basic needs of a "chorder".
We will eventually hide this generality behind a more simple user interface, so the user can make the adjustments as if it was a single instrument only.