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Anyone using Synfire with Vienna Ensemble Pro 5?

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I currently have Harmony Navigator2 Advanced, but thinking about upgrading to Synfire Express, and Synfire pro later down the line when I have time once clients are not bugging me about work :(

 

My workflow is 100% 64 bit as I use large amounts of RAM (My main VEP5 template just on slave 1 is going on 22GB)

 

I see there's Rewire support in Synfire express, but it's 16 bit right? So won't work with the 64bit DAWs I'm using I guess? I thought about going to the 16bit versions of my current DAWS and using briging via something like jbridge but it's to unstable once it's really getting hit hard.

 

All I really want if rewire is not going to work, is some way to start my DAW recording when Synfire starts playing.

 

Currently I'm just recording manually via LoopBE30 right out of HN2, a bit cumbersome hehe.

 

Hope someone has some suggestions maybe?

 

Thanks, and btw your software is brilliant, I'm loving HN2.


Sat, 2013-04-20 - 12:44 Permalink

The Rewire connection between Synfire and a DAW is for synchronisation only and this works fine also at 64 bit DAW's. I use it to synchronise Synfire with Cubase 64 bit. 

 

I also use VE5 (standard edition). It can be hosted directly at a Synfire Audio Engine or at a Synfire Drone. The Drones are VST's or AU's that are hosted at your DAW. They have a data connection to Synfire. The drones itself can host VSTi's (such as Vienna Instruments or Vienna Ensemble) and receive the MIDI data directly from Synfire. That's the standard workflow with Synfire: Using Rewire for synchronisation and the Synfire Drones to host virtual instruments at the DAW and to transfer MIDI Data from Synfire to the DAW.

 

Sat, 2013-04-20 - 14:08 Permalink

Great, never used Rewire so wasn't sure how that worked between different bit versions.

 

I've also just read according to the blurb on the product page, that Synfire Express supports drag and drop of MIDI, that would work also, and might just be quicker since there's no need to record the midi data in realtime or using the drones, I'm a stickler for keeping things as simple as possible.

 

Thanks juergen :)

Sat, 2013-04-20 - 14:56 Permalink

I've also just read according to the blurb on the product page, that Synfire Express supports drag and drop of MIDI, that would work also, and might just be quicker since there's no need to record the midi data in realtime or using the drones,

The statement that Synfire supports drag and drop of MIDI means that you can drag and drop MIDI data from a Synfire drone to a DAW track. So, to transfer MIDI from Synfire to the DAW there is no need to record it in realtime but you will need to use a drone to transfer it via drag and drop.

You can use the MIDI data that is transferred from Synfire to a drone in different ways:

  • you can route the MIDI to the virtual instrument that is hosted at the drone. Then the audio output of the virtual instrument will be routed through the drone to the DAW,
  • or you can record the MIDI output of the drone in realtime at the DAW,
  • or you can drag and drop the MIDI from the drone to a track at the DAW.

 

 

Sat, 2013-04-20 - 18:07 Permalink

Sounds like using a drone is the easiest way, and then just dragging the midi from there to my DAW when ready to finish up.

 

Thanks.