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Has someone experience with this how to setup ?
Must i use 16 midi transient midi drones for a multitimbral GM (general midi) Vsti in Cubase16 or can i use one Transient Midi drone for a multitimbral GM Vsti in Cubase?
I noticed that the 32 bit midi drone has 16 midi input/output, but 64 bit transient midi drone has 4 midi input/output.
In Synfire itself with the audioengine it is easy to use a multitimbral GM Vsti, but in Cubase 7.5 now a transient drone its become complicated.
Sun, 2014-10-19 - 14:12 Permalink
It's easy. Just add a transient GM DD (the same way you set up an engine DD, but tick the MIDI box). Then in Cubase add a Cognitone Drone, add the drone to Synfire (from the DAW4 tab). In Cubase assign Halion Sonic (or whatever) and in the Options make it a GM instrument.
Finally add 16 tracks to Cubase and use the input transformer to filter out 1,2,3, etc.
Done!
Sun, 2014-10-19 - 15:40 Permalink
No it is not easy.. i try to play the demo arrangement from Synfire in Cubase 7.5, but somehow something went wrong.
So it is not done yet.
What could be went wrong Pete..do you have a idea ?
Please explain exactly your steps how you setup the GM midi drone in Cubase 7.5.
Most easy should be a video from you to get this GM transient drone working in Cubase 7.5
Sun, 2014-10-19 - 16:01 Permalink
Yes boss, a GIF is attached!
On reflection, it may have been easier to set the Halion Instrument track to 'Any' before adding the 15 MIDI tracks. I've only just got 7.5 and didn't realise it was going to do that. You'll see what I mean when you get to that point.
Sun, 2014-10-19 - 16:17 Permalink
Pete ..very helpful the animated gif!
:) After seeing this.. i realized i forget to set two GM option in HAlion5 ( you can also intialize the GM mode in HAlion5 and then the slots are filled with 16 GM programs)
I must try this out again further.. to be continued..
Sun, 2014-10-19 - 19:30 Permalink
It seems that in HALion5 is no GM mode option, but i must select multi programs (sounds) in HALion 5 by initializing: "general midi multi" and then two options: program changes allowing and a other one.
For resources i don't know..but HALion5 offers more, but is more userunfriendly then Halion Sonic and Halion Sonic 2 is included as you buy HALion5 !
For setup testing is Halion Sonic 2 more suitable
Very informative your animated gif and it went wrong for me on different places in my setup
- forget options GM in Halion
- forget to switch on the module for input transformer channel pass
- midi channel on number or any ?
- i swicthed on the monitor option to allow the drone to receive midi data (like in the wiki video of Juergen
Mon, 2014-10-20 - 00:23 Permalink
Yes, finally there is multi-timbral Vsti in Cubase 7.5!! .. the demo arrangement sounds normal good now.
- It seems that there is not a midi time problem when i record one track.
- Problem is the default library ..when selecting a phrase there is no sound to listen( has this to do that the audio engine of synfire is not used ? ) this is a serious problem for listening to phrases in Cubase .
It seems that any midi channel is correct,but there is no default library to choose: still handicapted in windows 7
Is there a fix for this in Synfire ..to play the phrases in a library for a transient GM drone in Cubase ?
Mon, 2014-10-20 - 12:35 Permalink
But must you assign a instrument for every phrase in the library ?
When Synfire is used with the audioengine.. it assigns the GM bank to the library..but now in Cubase 7.5 there is no audio engine in Synfire used.
I use then the embedded library where i have added the default Synfire library and the default library where default synfre library is also included
Mon, 2014-10-20 - 14:59 Permalink
I am really curious how you did that this option in Synfire, to set the GM transient drone by default ?
Seems to hidden somewhere .. library use as global instrument ?
A another issue is that when playing one midi track in Synfire there (seems) are two midi channels involved in Cubase 7.5
e.g : there is one midi instrument playing on midi3 and this instrument is to see (volume bar) in Cubase and HAlion 5 slot, but a track above in midi 2 gives also the same volume bar as midi3 , but there is no instrument loaded in Halion 5 slot ?
Mon, 2014-10-20 - 16:33 Permalink
I am really curious how you did that this option in Synfire, to set the GM transient drone by default ?
I didn't do anything so I don't know. Maybe you changed them at some point, no idea.
but a track above in midi 2 gives also the same volume bar as midi3
Probably you haven't got your Input Transformers set correctly. They must be set from 1 to 16 against each MIDI track.
Wed, 2014-10-29 - 21:22 Permalink
No idea how to embed the soundcloud player ?.made different websites in html and php, but no info here
https://soundcloud.com/janamdo/mistery-strings
Made as a try with a fixed sound transient midi drone module 64 bit in Cubase 7.5.and Synfire .. stringmachine sound from Halion5
A base for more
Thu, 2014-10-30 - 10:04 Permalink
you need to get the soundcloud song id from the embedded code you get from the soundcloud page, somewhere in the embedded code there is something like =4567321 thats the number you want. Then in this forum put (https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/track…)
ok that didnt work... the forum took it as a soundcloud link... lol you need open square bracket, the word soundcloud, a space, the number from the embedded code, and a closing square bracket.
Looks like youve cracked your technical problems with transient drones and halion. quite a sweet sounding string sound.
Wed, 2014-11-05 - 22:26 Permalink
(https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/track…)
songtitle : Mystiry Strings..
Thanks Blacksun!..and Pete too to get this working in Cubase 7.5 and ofcourse also Cognitone
(https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/track…)
Inspiration..for this i do need a physical modelled guitar..it is now too static