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Putting instruments inside a container?

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I'm a bit confused about how you get instruments to only show up in the container I add them to, right now if I add an instrument in any container it shows up everywhere and I can't figure out how to make a container only show the instruments I added to them.

 

Also, is there anyway to rename instruments?  Say I have an instrument added twice, for example for countpoint to keep the CF and the voice parts seperated, both instruments will then be named the same so it's hard to tell which is which.

 

Loving Synfire so far, will probably upgrade to pro next month, I found the CCs you can add to each instrument so they are always initialized to default values, brilliant that you can set the CCs to defaults at the device level and then only adjust as needed for any individual instruments that needs it, save me a TON of time already. But I gotta have the articulations feature, I have a ton of sample libraries loaded on my VEP5 slaves and I just can't keep track of all those damn keyswitches all over the place + Synfire moves my keyswitch notes around :(


Mon, 2013-04-22 - 23:36 Permalink

Hey kendk,
Instruments are set for the complete song but are empty unless you add some figures or other parameters for the instrument in a container.
There is a little button marked M that minimises all empty instruments for the selected container. Also if you turn on the option to trace parameters then the container that affects what ever instrument/parameter you have selected will be shown with a blue line.....

You can rename an instrument in the instrument inspector on the right side, think its the bottom most edit box.

The issue of keyswitches in the express version of synfire has been raised before, there are a couple of workarounds including things like setting up another instruments on the same channel and defining the figure as static then putting the keyswitches on there but you might have to change the playing range as sf still alters static notes to conform to a playing range. It's a lot simpler in the pro version.

Welcome looking forward to hearing some of your work posted on here

Tue, 2013-04-23 - 05:50 Permalink

Ah I see, I was under the impression that the instrument would dissappear when it was moved to another container, so I was scratching my head when nothing happened; now I see that only the figure gets moved but the instrument will still be visible but empty. Gonna take a while to adjust coming from many years of traditional DAWs.

 

I was trying to follow along with the video showing how to structure a song, but the only video showing this was for Harmony Navigator so things looked different.

 

Found the place to rename the instrument, was called "instument label" in the inspector.

 

I'll upgrade to pro for the keyswitch feature. I tried the "second track with keyswitch notes" in the past, but it gets to messy. I'm using LA Scoring Strings among others, and often write a couple string parts divisi, so that's 4 tracks for Cello 1st chair, a , b, c sections + 4 tracks for keyswitches so 8 tracks just for the cellos, gets hairy very fast hehe.

 

Thanks  :)