Selection of chords inside the harmonizer..

Select the desired position and insert a new transition point using the button. That will create a new selection of chords to choose from.

Thanks for the report. Actually chords should not be added this way, but it sounds like an interesting thought.

[quote="keith_phillips"]I was thinking outside the box a little bit, seeing if there was a way to get some alternate chords into the harmonizer that weren't necessarily being displayed at the moment.

Interesting thread. The harmonizer is the only feature I've really given up working with because it never seems to offer the chords I want. So I would definitely welcome the ability to add chords apart from the ones which synfire suggests.

When recognising imported figures I used to create the full progression in a progression editor and then just paste it in which seemed to work without a problem. I did this before recognising figures. However, I seem to remember someone saying in another thread that figure recognition is independent of harmony so I now think I was wasting my time! Is that right?

Tim

@Tim: The opposite is true: Figure recognition is /impossible/ without a progression that can serve as a reference (it's the harmonizer which is only marginally influenced by an already existing progression).

In fact, a good harmonization is the best preparation for subsequent figure recognition. Your approach to do a manual harmonization first and then run the recognition on the bare Take again is correct. In most cases this leads to better results than the fully automated import batch.

This is also the standard workflow in the phrase pool editor, where one builds phrase libraries from scratch.

The harmonizer's suggestions largely depend on the correct key assumption. If you accidentally pick the major/minor parallel, you will already see less optimal results. Also make sure there is enough input to harmonize.

My standard procedure is to have the harmonizer create a rough guess and then tweak the progression using palettes or by just adding extensions to the chords.

Andre

Yes, its the "physical" parameter assigned/set for the container that matters for figure recognition.

The other one shown at the bottom of the harmonizer's vector view is only temporary -- it shows your current selection. Unless you accept it for the container (by pressing the Apply button), it will be lost when closing the window.

The harmonizer remembers your last selections between sessions, btw. Although this information is lost when the file is saved to disk (not persistent).

Andre,

Thank you for explaining all that. I hadn't understood the way the container progression interacted with the progression in the harmonizer.

Tim