This content is for an older version of Synfire. The current version is more streamlined and advanced, but most of the functionality shown here still exist.
not sure how/if it can be done. I would like to have live detect in Synfire read/record chords I play using so-called music theory apps like Scaler, Instachord, etc. Problem seems to be reading single note midi inputs as multi-voiced chords. Can Synfire do this?
Comments
Mon, 2018-04-16 - 14:25 Permalink
you could try routing the output (midi data) of those apps into synfire and use the live chord recognition function. Not quite what you were after but should work.
Mon, 2018-04-16 - 18:00 Permalink
Scaler is giving me better chord recognition from midi than SFP. I just take the chords that scaler gives and input them into SFP.
SFP really needs a better chord recognition system at this point.
Tue, 2018-04-17 - 04:08 Permalink
I will try both of these things. My concern was that midi out from (e.g.) Scaler would only send the trigger note, not the full chord. I think I can capture midi trigger in my DAW as full chord information using a round about method, then export that as a midi file, and then import it into SF. That may be the only way to go, but an awful lot of steps...
Tue, 2018-04-17 - 18:22 Permalink
SFP will not recognize the chord as well as Scaler. You will have to manually trype the chords in that Scaler gives you. SFP needs to be updated to recognize chords better.
Fri, 2018-04-20 - 07:24 Permalink
Yes, SF chord recognition might be better. also agree best options now are to type in chords, or use palette, which does not quite get at voicings I want. Oh well. It would be great if SF worked seemlessly with newer chord trigger plugins, but maybe down the line.
Sun, 2018-04-22 - 00:52 Permalink
Scaler and cthulhu are great ways to create chord progressions for Synfire..Iam building my library daily.
Sun, 2018-12-23 - 04:11 Permalink
EDIT: After watching HiEnergyMusic's video on chord input, I see that it's a lot easier to input chords than I realized, using the [note]-[note]-[note] notation.
I hope it's ok bumping this thead; I figured it would be better than starting a new one on the same topic. Anyway, it looks like Scaler saves chord progressions as a very simple XML file, with no tempo or other rhythmic indications--just sequences of MIDI notes enclosed in tags marked <CHORD>. I suppose it would be easy to write a script to parse these, but can Synfire import mere lists of MIDI notes? They would they have to be put in a MIDI file with some kind of rhythm data, wouldn't they?
I know that it's supposed to be easier to just type in the names of chords, but Scaler and Synfire seem to use different terminology for the more complex chords. (Hence my wondering about importing them as MIDI notes.)
Sun, 2018-12-23 - 11:15 Permalink
Duplicate post
Wed, 2023-11-29 - 23:41 Permalink
Offhand, it seems like it should be possible for generative plugins such as those mentioned (and others) to be hosted in Synfire 2 and have their output captured as takes. No?
Once captured as a take, the user could then proceed to Convert to Figure or whatever etc.
If this workflow has not been anticipated and is not currently possible, I suggest it would be a rich area for future enhancement.
Thu, 2023-11-30 - 10:19 Permalink
Hosting generative plug-ins inside Synfire (perhaps providing those with pre-existing musical material from Synfire) and capturing their output into a Take should make for heaps of creatively inspiring input.
This should turn the workflows I depicted in https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEZSEGqEleyP4Pq81RPhnCMR56hLlWrVL on their head.
Those come to my mind:
To me this looks like lots of creative potential.
Fri, 2023-12-01 - 18:35 Permalink
Nice collection of vids you've made there HiEnergy. Thanks for the reference!
Sat, 2023-12-02 - 02:12 Permalink
Thanks, sj1